I'd still like to go to a presumably haunted location with a friend and attempt to capture an EVP. If I received a clear response, I don't know what I'd think.

(May 17, 2012 at 8:18 pm)MrSqurk Wrote: About 8 years ago I looked into a window of an abandoned mansion and seen a face with no body just a face. I was only 14 but this memory is extremely vivid.

This place had been abandoned so long there wasn't any floors, so it was basically impossible for someone to be up there.

I have always assumed it was my mind playing tricks on me. I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience.

I have. When I was quite young I had a singular experience with a "ghost" in a townhome I lived in. I recently discovered the phenomena of sleep paralysis that basically explained the entire encounter.

What you experienced can probably be explained by pareidolia.

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(May 17, 2012 at 8:51 pm)Annik Wrote: I used to be kinda into this stuff and live in a town that makes a shit ton of money in "Ghost Tours". Ghosts are not likely. A person dies with their brain dies, there is no "lingering image".

I almost got sucked into one of those last time we there. The kid found mini-golf, swimming & ice cream more intriguing, however.

(May 17, 2012 at 9:08 pm)Annik Wrote: Well, to be honest, everything that makes up a person is in the brain. When the brain dies, everything the person was dies with it. A person without a brain is just a body.

People are born anencephalitic.

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(May 17, 2012 at 9:09 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: That's more like a biological machine. The mind that makes it a person is gone.

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Tell that to the mother of Nicholas Coke.

(May 18, 2012 at 8:17 am)Phil Wrote:

(May 17, 2012 at 9:09 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: That's more like a biological machine. The mind that makes it a person is gone.

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Tell that to the mother of Nicholas Coke.

Nah. That would just be mean.

(May 18, 2012 at 8:30 am)Paul the Human Wrote:

(May 18, 2012 at 8:17 am)Phil Wrote: Tell that to the mother of Nicholas Coke.

Nah. That would just be mean.

And claiming a living breathing human is a biological machine and not a living person because they lack most of their brain isn't?

Sure most die within hours or days but Nicholas Coke is alive and well and was born anencephalitic in 2008.

(May 18, 2012 at 8:35 am)Phil Wrote:

(May 18, 2012 at 8:30 am)Paul the Human Wrote: Nah. That would just be mean.

And claiming a living breathing human is a biological machine and not a living person because they lack most of their brain isn't?

Claiming it is not mean. Telling it's mother would be.

(May 18, 2012 at 8:35 am)Phil Wrote: Sure most die within hours or days but Nicholas Coke is alive and well and was born anencephalitic in 2008.

But he is not a 'person', in that he does not think, does not have a personality or even a persona. He is a biological machine that was supposed to have been a person, but didn't make it that far. It isn't my fault.

(May 18, 2012 at 8:57 am)Paul the Human Wrote: But he is not a 'person', in that he does not think, does not have a personality or even a persona. He is a biological machine that was supposed to have been a person, but didn't make it that far. It isn't my fault.

If you're so convinced then it wouldn't be mean to tell that to his parents. Why won't you? And his parents would have quite a lot to say to you about their child's personality.

I said that it would be mean to say that to the parents. Whether their child was born with thoughts and a personality most likely matters very little to the parents. They probably love their child, even if that child will never know or return that love. All I'm saying is that without the ability to think, the 'personhood' is missing and all that remains is a biological shell. It's a support system with nothing to support.

I wouldn't say that to the parents. That would be mean.

(May 17, 2012 at 8:27 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: The human imagination is incredibly powerful. It may have been a distorted reflection of your own face.

Not to mention we are pattern seeking primates. A combination of an incredibly powerful imagination and the ability to see patterns that aren't there is the source of most if not all of our delusions. It's through thought, reason and evidence that we can filter what's real and what's not.

(May 18, 2012 at 9:08 am)Paul the Human Wrote: I said that it would be mean to say that to the parents. Whether their child was born with thoughts and a personality most likely matters very little to the parents. They probably love their child, even if that child will never know or return that love. All I'm saying is that without the ability to think, the 'personhood' is missing and all that remains is a biological shell. It's a support system with nothing to support.

I wouldn't say that to the parents. That would be mean.

Having a functioning brain stem (what causes the heart to beat, lungs to breath and regulates BP) and a forebrain means one isn't a person? You sure have an odd definition of person. Once again I will say if you are so sure 4 year old Nicholas isn't a person, go tell his parents. Fact is he is legally a person and all your mental posturing isn't going to change that.