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(May 24, 2012 at 9:53 am)Insanity x Wrote: @Aleter2Ego if I beg would you stop using all these colors?
Add me to your "Ignore" list.
Problem solved.
I wont put anyone on ignore, never liked that concept myself, just my personal taste. If I don't like your posts I simply skip over them.
To give you an example, on another website, a fundie named Jean, tried to threaten me with his god claim by claiming god unleashed the Tsunami in Japan to serve, not as a warning to Japan, but to America to suck up to his god. What that prick didn't know is that my x-wife was Japanese. That was as close to calling for a ban I had ever came, and if there had been an ignore option, I might have used it. But someone pulled me aside and said "Let him hang himself with his own words". So now, I either skip over his posts or throw his bigoted childish threat back in his face.
(May 24, 2012 at 2:48 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote: Add me to your "Ignore" list.
Problem solved.
I wont put anyone on ignore, never liked that concept myself, just my personal taste. If I don't like your posts I simply skip over them.
To give you an example, on another website, a fundie named Jean, tried to threaten me with his god claim by claiming god unleashed the Tsunami in Japan to serve, not as a warning to Japan, but to America to suck up to his god. What that prick didn't know is that my x-wife was Japanese. That was as close to calling for a ban I had ever came, and if there had been an ignore option, I might have used it. But someone pulled me aside and said "Let him hang himself with his own words". So now, I either skip over his posts or throw his bigoted childish threat back in his face.
Unfortunately people I don't choose to ignore would still quotes her and smear her multihued and wantonly bolded didactic loquacity all over an otherwise tasteful thread.
I wonder why it is that these allegedly "moral" xtians never seem to have a problem with their fucking god punishing innocent people in order to send a message to another sinner or group of sinners?
Could it be that their god is totally fucked up? Or are they???
Oh, yay. Now we are using huge font as well. *facepalm* Much bigger and I will have to start editing your post A2E. Don't make me have to do that. It's tedious.
May 24, 2012 at 6:57 pm (This post was last modified: May 24, 2012 at 7:11 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Quote:"Jean" sounds like a first class cocksucker. About what one would expect from a jesus freak.
Really? Sadly,not in my experience. (the women at least)
Such people are dead set against sex,lest it lead to dancing
I use the ignore button sometimes for the sake of my blood pressure ( I take pills,really)
I have not put God Child or even Alter Ego on ignore because I consider them our leading village idiots/court jesters. (Alter Ego is chief idiot)
I don't say this because of their peculiar personal superstitions,that would be an ad hominem. I''m insulting willfully ignorant fools who happen to believe in some Bronze age superstitions and some cunt of a deity..
May 24, 2012 at 7:36 pm (This post was last modified: May 24, 2012 at 7:41 pm by Abishalom.)
(May 22, 2012 at 12:00 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote:
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:
The teaching of hellfire is commonplace in Christendom and non-Christian religions. This teaching defames the Creator and portrays him as a sadist who tortures people in flames of fire for all eternity—as punishment for wrongdoing committed during the relatively brief human lifespan. The hellfire dogma was brought into Christianity by the Roman Catholics who copied it from pagan religions. (Pagans are those who do not worship the God of the Judeo-Christian Bible.)
The Bible makes it clear as to how God views the ritual burning of people. Jehovah ended up rejecting the ancient Israelites after they got involved with pagan worship, which included burning their children to death.
"And they [the Israelites/sons of Judah] have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that HAD NOT COME UP INTO MY HEART."(Jeremiah 7:31)
"{58} And they kept offending him with their high places, and with their graven images they kept inciting him to jealousy. {59} God heard and got to be furious, and he condemned Israel very much. {60} And he finally forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh, the tent in which he resided among earthling men." (Psalms 78:58-60)
The scriptures indicate that hell is nothing more than mankind’s common grave. Proof of this is provided by a verse of scripture in the Bible, which no hellfire-believing Christian can explain away. I’m referring to the scripture that says Jesus Christ--the epitome of a perfect, sinless, and obedient man--died and went to hell.
"{21} In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you, leaving you a model for you to follow his steps closely. {22} He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth."(1 Peter 2:21-22)
"He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that HIS SOUL WAS NOT LEFT IN HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption." (Acts 2:31--King James Version)
NOTE #1: The Bible uses the word "fire" symbolically to indicate cleansing OR permanent death OR permanent destruction. In the few times when the Bible used the word "fire" literally, it was with reference to events such as the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah--at which point, the individuals did not suffer eternal torment, they died immediately.
NOTE #2: the words "Hell" and "Hades" and "Sheol" and "Pit" are synonyms that mean THE GRAVE (of mankind).
NOTE #3: In the Bible, the expression "the lake of fire" and the word "Gehenna" are figurative or symbolic language that refer to permanent death or permanent destruction.
NOTE #4: "High Places" as used in the scriptures that I quote in this thread refer to the worship of the false gods.
DISCUSSION QUESTIONS:
1. According to Jeremiah 7:31, did Jehovah command the ancient Israelites to burn anyone in the fire?
2. According to Jeremiah 7:31, did the burning of people come to God's heart?
3. According to Jeremiah 7:31 and Psalms 78:58-59, did the ancient Israelites offend God by getting involved with false worship in their "high places", which included burning people to death?
4. According to those who teach hellfire torment, hell is a place for people who are wicked and sinful. If Hellfire is for wicked people, why did Jesus spend three days in hell--considering that it says at 1 Peter 2:22 that he did not commit any sin?
5. Jesus obeyed Jehovah and died a slow and torturous death for mankind. Hadn't he suffered enough? He'd suffered terribly--because of being obedient to his Heavenly Father. So why was he being punished again with burning hellfire? What's the logic for punishing him all over again?
6. Recall that after Jesus' resurrection, he appeared and spoke to several of his faithful apostles on different occasions before he returned to heaven. Why is it that Jesus made no mention to any of his apostles--after his resurrection--that he went to hell where he burned for three days?
7. When people are being tortured in hellfire, wouldn't they have to KNOW or be conscious/aware of the fact that they are being burned? I mean to say, what's the point of punishing people in hell if they aren't even aware?
8. Those who believe in eternal torment say that the person's soul is being burned forever. What is the soul? Is it something separate from the person's body? Are animals souls also or is this only for humans?
Where did you get "permanent death" from? That is about as accurate as the false doctrine of hell...
(May 22, 2012 at 2:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Alter2Ego, if there is no hell then were is the punishment, where is the justice God promises.
Is justice giving everybody the same reward/punishment?
(May 24, 2012 at 7:39 pm)Chuck Wrote: All the fundamentalists seem to be attracted to this thread. I think we will soon see the barnfire of christianities.
Keep dreaming. Sparing is how we train and it's a whole lot more intelligent that inventing clever insults like a third-grader.
