(May 27, 2012 at 1:50 pm)Drich Wrote: [

Try looking at Genesis 3 16 if you think you can find it.

Oh, I'm sorry were you speaking on OT Judaism?

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The O. T. is in the Christian bible.

Christians do not interpret the O. T. the way Jews do.

Christians see a fall while Jews see an elevation.

Christians have this thing against knowledge and think man should have stayed dumb as cows.

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DL

Quote:Christians have this thing against knowledge and think man should have stayed dumb as cows.

Most of those we get have.

(May 29, 2012 at 1:01 am)padraic Wrote:

Quote:Christians have this thing against knowledge and think man should have stayed dumb as cows.

Most of those we get have.

More like indoctrination and brainwashing but the resulting mind is still shackled by myths that they believe to be real.
Give the word belief here some leeway as most believers are not believe at all. They just follow culture and tradition.

Those who do get here are more of the literalist crowd and hell, they believe in everything from talking animals to a good genocidal God who get's his son needlessly murdered.

They have no concept of morality.

Regards
DL

No thanks, I value my sanity. Anyone who's ever tried to give advice to a woman will agree with me.

(May 29, 2012 at 1:37 pm)King_Charles Wrote: No thanks, I value my sanity. Anyone who's ever tried to give advice to a woman will agree with me.

I have both given some with thanks and taken some with thanks when my points were not well thought out.

Just don't try it with women that outthink you.

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DL

Quote:More like indoctrination and brainwashing but the resulting mind is still shackled by myths that they believe to be real.

Of course, I'm aware most the apologist dropkicks we get here are willfully ignorant and a bit deluded rather than clinically stupid. However, a few do seem to be a few chops short of a barebcue.

I'd love to help out but I've got a lot on my plate right now. How about the rest of you guys? Are you helping out with the ruling over women? Do women in your life request ruling over? My wife is nothing like that. She is quite content to rule herself and half the time she'd like to help rule over me too. But I hate to put her to any trouble. I say we just all rule over ourselves. Do your share but no more.

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(May 25, 2012 at 5:01 pm)Polaris Wrote: Those women who want to be equal with men, should be equal with men to an extent (I am against women serving on-board submarines with men and should have their own command, but that is the only issue I have).

Well that's fine for you if you happen to be gay. (Did you just come out to us?) But why shouldn't the straight guys have some of what they like on board? Is this part of your gay agenda?

(May 29, 2012 at 1:37 pm)King_Charles Wrote: No thanks, I value my sanity. Anyone who's ever tried to give advice to a woman will agree with me.

What a fragrantly misogynist statement.

Quote:What do you think?

Both men and women should be free to lead their own lives without restriction like sexism.

Quote:What would real men do?

Laugh at the religious whenever possible.

Quote:What would real women demand?

To be free to live their lives and be who they want to be.

Quote:Do men and women have what it takes to be free?

Of course.

(May 30, 2012 at 6:36 am)Ace Otana Wrote:

Quote:What do you think?

Both men and women should be free to lead their own lives without restriction like sexism.

Quote:What would real men do?

Laugh at the religious whenever possible.

Quote:What would real women demand?

To be free to live their lives and be who they want to be.

Quote:Do men and women have what it takes to be free?

Of course.

Good reply.

I and Plato disagree with your last. Depending on your definition of free.

None can be free of the city. Plato's city was laws and rules.

If you were free for instance, who would make your shoes is the way Plato put it.

If we wish to be as free as we can be, then we automatically un-free ourselves in that we take on the responsibility to insure that all share that same level of freedom.

Regards
DL