Quote:Godschild Wrote: I see our state is one of the six, it should be changed, equal rights for all citizens, still think everyone who runs for public office should have to declare their beliefs, people have the right to know who they are voting for.

THAT is direct violation of the US constitution. I guess I shouldn't be surprised; the US has a long tradition of ignoring its constitution whenever it becomes inconvenient,or when necessary to stop people who are different from enjoying the same rights.EG blacks,gays atheists,Hispanics, native Americans.

It surprises me not at all that such glib bigotry falls so trippingly from the lips of one of our young earth creationist loons,who tend to have the intellectual depth of a petrie dish.

This country is one of the most religious on the planet. Like a few that have posted already, there are probably a lot more of us than we know. They remain "in the closet" for fear of ridicule. Imagine for a minute if a politician came up through the ranks and had a viable plan to put this country back on track. But there's one thing.... He's an Atheist. He would be barraged by the religious right and wouldn't have a chance of making it out of the primaries. Let alone in a national election.

Quote:This country is one of the most religious on the planet.

No,it's not actually, it is simply a country with a high level of smug religosity,which is not the same thing.

(June 18, 2012 at 2:40 am)padraic Wrote:

Quote:This country is one of the most religious on the planet.

No,it's not actually, it is simply a country with a high level of smug religosity,which is not the same thing.

Your kidding me, right? Do you watch the news or even look around?

Yes we do... unfortunately America is one country we look at and shake our heads. WTF!?!?

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America (USA) is one country that does NOT look around and see what is happening in the world..... to it's detriment.

i don't quite think the states won't look around, i think we have a (perhaps) large group of folk who don't care to, but some do. i like to think that the open-minded individuals, (not govt) don't act like we know other countries very well, because we understand that there's a lot more to the world than we see on the not hardly impartial news, so we respect that lack of knowlege and try to not judge. the govt sure does think that they know other countries tho ... and unfortunately, when they do, they find something they like and try to go take it. not a good plan.

a guy i used to work with, was arguing this canadian guy at the job. the canadian asked him why american's don't know anything about canada. the american said "because i don't want to live in canada". so maybe that explains those few who are ignorant.

(June 17, 2012 at 1:32 am)padraic Wrote:

Quote:Godschild Wrote: I see our state is one of the six, it should be changed, equal rights for all citizens, still think everyone who runs for public office should have to declare their beliefs, people have the right to know who they are voting for.

THAT is direct violation of the US constitution. I guess I shouldn't be surprised; the US has a long tradition of ignoring its constitution whenever it becomes inconvenient,or when necessary to stop people who are different from enjoying the same rights.EG blacks,gays atheists,Hispanics, native Americans.

It surprises me not at all that such glib bigotry falls so trippingly from the lips of one of our young earth creationist loons,who tend to have the intellectual depth of a petrie dish.

For those who run for public office and are afraid to let people know what they believe have very little conviction in what they believe. Or maybe there's a hidden agenda, get into office and vote for what I believe, instead of representing the public that elected them, isn't this why they are called representatives.

GC, it has nothing to do with 'very little conviction in what they believe,' and everything to do with admitting to be an atheist is political suicide in this country. Politicians have to sell themselves as the product that the people want, and considering we live in a country where people are obsessed with the idea of god and our country being intertwined, you will not get elected selling yourself as an atheist in most places.

They have to pretend to be religious, because the Christian right will portray them as devil-worshipping baby-eaters.

Quote:Your kidding me, right?

Ad hominem; disagreeing does not mean I'm simply wrong.Muppet.

Quote:Do you watch the news or even look around?

The meaning of 'religiosity' can be broad. However,I use it the narrow sense; I refer to the humbuggery,ignorance and stupidity of the ([minority) lunar religious right which dominates much of American politics, social mores and law.

Quote:Religiosity, in its broadest sense, is a comprehensive sociological term used to refer to the numerous aspects of religious activity, dedication, and belief (religious doctrine). Another term that would work equally well, though is less often used, is religiousness. In its narrowest sense, religiosity deals more with how religious a person is, and less with how a person is religious (in practicing certain rituals, retelling certain stories, revering certain symbols, or accepting certain doctrines about deities and afterlife)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity







PS it's 'you're'

(June 13, 2012 at 10:51 am)Manowar Wrote: Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.) calls himself an Atheist no one else. is it because Atheists are the most hated and distrusted groups out there.
It makes sense I think there are more Atheists in Congress but won't admit it for obvious reasons.
I read if growth continues at the current rate, one in four Americans will profess no religious faith within 20 years. That' s incredible and great news

I guess Atheism is easy to catch.

Manowar

Atheism is more consistent with human nature. We, by nature, hate God and wish to do our own thing. It is no surprise that we so easily adopt this kind of position, even when it doesn't correspond to reality. As long as it corresponds more closely with our own nature and therefore, desired point of view, that's really all that matters to most people.

I agree with Rep. Stark though. There are a lot more atheists in Congress and in the United States for that matter than actually profess. Even those who call themselves Christians aren't usually telling the truth. In truth, most of us live very nominally religious lives to the extent that religion is a part of our lives at all. Practically speaking, we live like atheists most of the time, but most people have never escaped the bonds of their own upbringing and/or psychology enough to make their professions consistent with their behavior.

I'm a Christiain though, and while not a perfect example, I at least try to be transparent about it.