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(June 20, 2012 at 7:50 am)Holubice Wrote: Is the show coming to end as predicted 2000 years ago?
It cracks me up when we get twits who point to recent disasters and tell us it's "a sign of the end times". No, idiot. It's just stuff that has been going on for thousands of years. Imagine if half the population suddenly dropped dead. Is that a sign of the end? Well, that's what happened in the 14th century with the Black Plague. The planet managed to continue on. What about a war encompassing most every nation on Earth? What about a genocide that killed millions? What about the development and use of an explosive device that destroyed not one, but two cities? Does that sound like the end? Well, that was WWII and the planet survived.
Dopes like this seem to think that there have never been natural and manmade disasters before. Wake up and read some history. The only way "the end" is coming is when the sun blows up into a red giant and incinerates everything on the planet.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
(June 20, 2012 at 7:50 am)Holubice Wrote: In summary...Is the show coming to end as predicted 2000 years ago?
Yes, the end is very near. You would want to cut open your own carotid artery with a exacto knife soon if you were to be raptured away before the end actually arrives.
(June 20, 2012 at 7:50 am)Holubice Wrote: Is the show coming to end as predicted 2000 years ago?
Do really believe this is the first period of time that your ilk has predicted 'end times' based on whatever the current events were of the time?
Do you really believe that Christianity was the first religion to predict ' end times'?
An Assyrian clay tablet dating to approximately 2800 BC was unearthed bearing the words "Our earth is degenerate in these latter days. There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end. Bribery and corruption are common."
Sound familiar? See the date? That's almost 5000 years ago. So your late coming death cult is 3000 years behind in the end times prediction game.
Not only is your death cult a late comer in predicting end times, it is 2000 years overdue in its own prediction.
Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28) This implies that the Second Coming would return within the lifetime of his contemporaries, and indeed the Apostles expected Jesus to return before the passing of their generation.
Every generation of cultists, like yourself, believes they're living in the end times.
Maybe you should try some critical thinking some time....
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
1 Jesus left the Temple, and as he was going away his disciples came up to draw his attention to the Temple buildings.
2 He said to them in reply, 'You see all these? In truth I tell you, not a single stone here will be left on another: everything will be pulled down.'
3 And while he was sitting on the Mount of Olives the disciples came and asked him when they were by themselves, 'Tell us, when is this going to happen, and what sign will there be of your coming and of the end of the world?'
4 And Jesus answered them, 'Take care that no one deceives you,
5 because many will come using my name and saying, "I am the Christ," and they will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumours of wars; see that you are not alarmed, for this is something that must happen, but the end will not be yet.
7 For nation will fight against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All this is only the beginning of the birthpangs.
9 'Then you will be handed over to be tortured and put to death; and you will be hated by all nations on account of my name.
10 And then many will fall away; people will betray one another and hate one another.
11 Many false prophets will arise; they will deceive many,
12 and with the increase of lawlessness, love in most people will grow cold;
13 but anyone who stands firm to the end will be saved.
14 'This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed to the whole world as evidence to the nations. And then the end will come.
15 'So when you see the appalling abomination, of which the prophet Daniel spoke, set up in the holy place (let the reader understand),
16 then those in Judaea must escape to the mountains;
17 if anyone is on the housetop, he must not come down to collect his belongings from the house;
18 if anyone is in the fields, he must not turn back to fetch his cloak.
19 Alas for those with child, or with babies at the breast, when those days come!
20 Pray that you will not have to make your escape in winter or on a Sabbath.
21 For then there will be great distress, unparalleled since the world began, and such as will never be again.
22 And if that time had not been shortened, no human being would have survived; but shortened that time shall be, for the sake of those who are chosen.
23 'If anyone says to you then, "Look, here is the Christ," or "Over here," do not believe it;
24 for false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
25 Look! I have given you warning.
26 'If, then, they say to you, "Look, he is in the desert," do not go there; "Look, he is in some hiding place," do not believe it;
27 because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
28 Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
29 'Immediately after the distress of those days the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven; then, too, all the peoples of the earth will beat their breasts; and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet to gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 'Take the fig tree as a parable: as soon as its twigs grow supple and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
33 So with you when you see all these things: know that he is near, right at the gates.
34 In truth I tell you, before this generation has passed away, all these things will have taken place.
35 Sky and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
36 But as for that day and hour, nobody knows it, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, no one but the Father alone.
37 'As it was in Noah's day, so will it be when the Son of man comes.
38 For in those days before the Flood people were eating, drinking, taking wives, taking husbands, right up to the day Noah went into the ark,
39 and they suspected nothing till the Flood came and swept them all away. This is what it will be like when the Son of man comes.
40 Then of two men in the fields, one is taken, one left;
41 of two women grinding at the mill, one is taken, one left.
42 'So stay awake, because you do not know the day when your master is coming.
43 You may be quite sure of this, that if the householder had known at what time of the night the burglar would come, he would have stayed awake and would not have allowed anyone to break through the wall of his house.
44 Therefore, you too must stand ready because the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
45 'Who, then, is the wise and trustworthy servant whom the master placed over his household to give them their food at the proper time?
46 Blessed that servant if his master's arrival finds him doing exactly that.
47 In truth I tell you, he will put him in charge of everything he owns.
48 But if the servant is dishonest and says to himself, "My master is taking his time,"
49 and sets about beating his fellow-servants and eating and drinking with drunkards,
50 his master will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not know.
51 The master will cut him off and send him to the same fate as the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and grinding of teeth.'
Are you so sure this is not the begging of the End explained above?
(June 20, 2012 at 4:28 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: ...
Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28) This implies that the Second Coming would return within the lifetime of his contemporaries, and indeed the Apostles expected Jesus to return before the passing of their generation.
...
Jesus said He stay with us also after his death, so he is present also right now.
And, for this reason, the person will see him coming back it's you.
1 Jesus left the Temple, and as he was going away his disciples came up to draw his attention to the Temple buildings.
2 He said to them in reply, 'You see all these? In truth I tell you, not a single stone here will be left on another: everything will be pulled down.'
3 And while he was sitting on the Mount of Olives the disciples came and asked him when they were by themselves, 'Tell us, when is this going to happen, and what sign will there be of your coming and of the end of the world?'
4 And Jesus answered them, 'Take care that no one deceives you,
5 because many will come using my name and saying, "I am the Christ," and they will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumours of wars; see that you are not alarmed, for this is something that must happen, but the end will not be yet.
7 For nation will fight against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All this is only the beginning of the birthpangs.
9 'Then you will be handed over to be tortured and put to death; and you will be hated by all nations on account of my name.
10 And then many will fall away; people will betray one another and hate one another.
11 Many false prophets will arise; they will deceive many,
12 and with the increase of lawlessness, love in most people will grow cold;
13 but anyone who stands firm to the end will be saved.
14 'This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed to the whole world as evidence to the nations. And then the end will come.
15 'So when you see the appalling abomination, of which the prophet Daniel spoke, set up in the holy place (let the reader understand),
16 then those in Judaea must escape to the mountains;
17 if anyone is on the housetop, he must not come down to collect his belongings from the house;
18 if anyone is in the fields, he must not turn back to fetch his cloak.
19 Alas for those with child, or with babies at the breast, when those days come!
20 Pray that you will not have to make your escape in winter or on a Sabbath.
21 For then there will be great distress, unparalleled since the world began, and such as will never be again.
22 And if that time had not been shortened, no human being would have survived; but shortened that time shall be, for the sake of those who are chosen.
23 'If anyone says to you then, "Look, here is the Christ," or "Over here," do not believe it;
24 for false Christs and false prophets will arise and provide great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
25 Look! I have given you warning.
26 'If, then, they say to you, "Look, he is in the desert," do not go there; "Look, he is in some hiding place," do not believe it;
27 because the coming of the Son of man will be like lightning striking in the east and flashing far into the west.
28 Wherever the corpse is, that is where the vultures will gather.
29 'Immediately after the distress of those days the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven; then, too, all the peoples of the earth will beat their breasts; and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet to gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 'Take the fig tree as a parable: as soon as its twigs grow supple and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.
33 So with you when you see all these things: know that he is near, right at the gates.
34 In truth I tell you, before this generation has passed away, all these things will have taken place.
35 Sky and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
36 But as for that day and hour, nobody knows it, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, no one but the Father alone.
37 'As it was in Noah's day, so will it be when the Son of man comes.
38 For in those days before the Flood people were eating, drinking, taking wives, taking husbands, right up to the day Noah went into the ark,
39 and they suspected nothing till the Flood came and swept them all away. This is what it will be like when the Son of man comes.
40 Then of two men in the fields, one is taken, one left;
41 of two women grinding at the mill, one is taken, one left.
42 'So stay awake, because you do not know the day when your master is coming.
43 You may be quite sure of this, that if the householder had known at what time of the night the burglar would come, he would have stayed awake and would not have allowed anyone to break through the wall of his house.
44 Therefore, you too must stand ready because the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
45 'Who, then, is the wise and trustworthy servant whom the master placed over his household to give them their food at the proper time?
46 Blessed that servant if his master's arrival finds him doing exactly that.
47 In truth I tell you, he will put him in charge of everything he owns.
48 But if the servant is dishonest and says to himself, "My master is taking his time,"
49 and sets about beating his fellow-servants and eating and drinking with drunkards,
50 his master will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not know.
51 The master will cut him off and send him to the same fate as the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and grinding of teeth.'
Are you so sure this is not the begging of the End explained above?
(June 20, 2012 at 4:28 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: ...
Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28) This implies that the Second Coming would return within the lifetime of his contemporaries, and indeed the Apostles expected Jesus to return before the passing of their generation.
...
Jesus said He stay with us also after his death, so he is present also right now.
And, for this reason, the person will see him coming back it's you.
You should start a doomsday travel agency. You could sell gullible people trips to Compound's in Waco Texas. You could sell trips to South America or you could sell trips to comets leaving from the port of sunny San Diego. But what you cannot do is sell those trips to us because we are NOT stupid.
Holubice Wrote:Are you so sure this is not the begging of the End explained above?
Yes.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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