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RE: Absolute Truth
June 24, 2012 at 11:58 pm
(June 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm)OhimeSama Wrote: My father would say that truth is whatever God says.
This would be the same god that told Adam & Eve they would die on the day they ate from that infamous tree?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 25, 2012 at 1:57 am
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(June 24, 2012 at 11:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (June 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm)OhimeSama Wrote: My father would say that truth is whatever God says.
This would be the same god that told Adam & Eve they would die on the day they ate from that infamous tree?
Your lying God did not say that, God said : if you eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you shall surely die, and they did that very day, they died a spiritual death, and later in life they die a physical death, God had it right twice, because they did not have to die either death.
(June 24, 2012 at 11:41 pm)OhimeSama Wrote: @Chuck
I personally don't have a good written definition for what truth is, or at least a definition that doesn't use some derivative of the word truth.
My father would say that truth is whatever God says.
And I know my father is a brilliant debater because I've watched him debate people on other topics. Nowhere did I say that he was simply a brilliant religious debater. One can debate well and still be wrong about religion.
You seem to have a true respect for your father, even if you do not believe the way he does. Truth is not a what or what if, truth is who God is, it's His absolute nature.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 25, 2012 at 2:05 am
I hope for your sake that G-C isn't your father. What a horrid fate that would be!
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 25, 2012 at 2:05 am
(June 25, 2012 at 1:57 am)Godschild Wrote: Your lying God did not say that ...
Nuh-uh, he's all yours to keep. It's not our fault that he kept a diary of his folly.. 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 25, 2012 at 2:09 am
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(June 25, 2012 at 1:57 am)Godschild Wrote: You seem to have a true respect for your father, even if you do not believe the way he does. Truth is not a what or what if, truth is who God is, it's His absolute nature.
Nope. Ask any muslim and he will tell you the truth. errrr ... I mean, ask any Hindu and he can definitely tell you what the real truth is. Catholics know the real truth too.
No no, if you want to know the "truth" don't bother with all that just ask GC. He knows.
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 25, 2012 at 2:16 am
(June 25, 2012 at 1:57 am)Godschild Wrote: Your lying God did not say that, God said : if you eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you shall surely die, and they did that very day, they died a spiritual death, and later in life they die a physical death, God had it right twice, because they did not have to die either death.
Oooooh, a 'spiritual death'! That explains alot.... No wait, actually it doesn't! 
Its funny that religionists have the big steaming piles of bullshit that are their holy books, when it starts to really stink what they do? Pile more bullshit ontop of it!
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 26, 2012 at 3:11 am
(June 24, 2012 at 9:32 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Philosophy is such a fucking useless endeavor.
It's almost as bad science; those damn scientists keep changing their minds!
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 26, 2012 at 7:54 am
(June 25, 2012 at 1:57 am)Godschild Wrote: (June 24, 2012 at 11:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: This would be the same god that told Adam & Eve they would die on the day they ate from that infamous tree?
Your lying God did not say that
No indeed, your lying god did.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 26, 2012 at 8:12 am
Sorry G-C you are in error here. Also your "rationalising" is synonymous with drug addiction/ mental health issues. pleases keep up with he latest neurological findings.
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RE: Absolute Truth
June 26, 2012 at 5:56 pm
(June 26, 2012 at 8:12 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Sorry G-C you are in error here. Also your "rationalising" is synonymous with drug addiction/ mental health issues. pleases keep up with he latest neurological findings.
Who do you think their studying.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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