Because they go around claiming it is real.

(July 8, 2012 at 4:08 am)CliveStaples Wrote:

(July 7, 2012 at 10:24 pm)padraic Wrote: Of course they don't. What they need is proof.

It's OK, I understand you are referring to the faithful. IE people who are unable to distinguish between personal certitude based on superstition and evidence based knowledge.

I'm gonna go Socratic on you.

Because you have absolutely nothing left.

Quote:Why do they need proof?

The fact that you ask this particularly absurd question betrays your intellectual dishonesty.

Failing your responsibility to provide EVIDENCE (as distinguished from "proof"), all you offer is superstitions and fairy tales.

(July 8, 2012 at 8:29 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Because they go around claiming it is real.

And why does that require them to have proof?

(July 8, 2012 at 9:19 am)CliveStaples Wrote:

(July 8, 2012 at 8:29 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Because they go around claiming it is real.

And why does that require them to have proof?

And why does it hurt when I pee?

(July 8, 2012 at 1:39 pm)ktulu Wrote:

(July 8, 2012 at 9:19 am)CliveStaples Wrote: And why does that require them to have proof?

And why does it hurt when I pee?

I thought theists were the ones who refused to justify their claims. Does that make you a theist?

Cystitis?

(July 8, 2012 at 1:54 pm)CliveStaples Wrote:

(July 8, 2012 at 1:39 pm)ktulu Wrote: And why does it hurt when I pee?

I thought theists were the ones who refused to justify their claims. Does that make you a theist?

That conclusion's about on par with the rest of your (sorry excuses for) arguments here.

(July 8, 2012 at 9:19 am)CliveStaples Wrote:

(July 8, 2012 at 8:29 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Because they go around claiming it is real.

And why does that require them to have proof?

Because if they are merely hallucinating then the rest of us are correct to assume they are batshit crazy.

BTW, proof is the wrong word. I'd settle for evidence. All I can ever seem to get from xtians is mental masturbation about the fucking "god" that they have concocted, though.

(July 8, 2012 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(July 8, 2012 at 9:19 am)CliveStaples Wrote: And why does that require them to have proof?

Because if they are merely hallucinating then the rest of us are correct to assume they are batshit crazy.

BTW, proof is the wrong word. I'd settle for evidence. All I can ever seem to get from xtians is mental masturbation about the fucking "god" that they have concocted, though.

Doncha just love how he shifts what anyone says a little here, a little there, to where he can argue his pet strawmen?

Oh, and i think he is trying to see just how many threads he can hijack into running the same argument in.

(July 8, 2012 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Because if they are merely hallucinating then the rest of us are correct to assume they are batshit crazy.

BTW, proof is the wrong word. I'd settle for evidence. All I can ever seem to get from xtians is mental masturbation about the fucking "god" that they have concocted, though.

So if they don't provide evidence, then they're hallucinating? Anytime someone beliefs a proposition without evidence for that proposition, they're "hallucinating"? That doesn't seem like the right word.