(July 17, 2012 at 12:46 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Ah, yes, Id better be preachig to Napo that there is an after-life if he truly believes in jesus. Somehow, I don't think he would buy into it.

Yes, because clearly that's the only alternative to being an asshole.

(July 17, 2012 at 11:46 am)whateverist Wrote: Still those of us who are more than three times your age have got to cling to thinking there is something we have that you don't yet. God knows you have youthful vigor and all that comes with that. Since we have more life experience we're going to count that as pretty damned important. Out of respect for your elders, you should probably just wink and play along.

If decreptitude is all you have left, of course you have no choice but to pretend it is worth something.

Decrepitude is the worse part but just about everything else is better, you may be happy to learn. Leastwise, I'm liking it.

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(July 17, 2012 at 3:17 am)Selliedjoup Wrote: I admit I'm a shit-stirrer, it makes me despair that humanity commonly over-reacts to the previous regime/paradigm, and that's how I see atheism it's just a reversal which becomes the same as what it's attempting to counter.

I personally have no issue with atheism, just how the vast atheists present their perspective, it's reactive to theism that sadly comes across with the same vigour.

If we're feeling like we're past Christianity, I think the take-away should have more to do with the place of certainty. Sort of once burned, twice cautious. I don't think anything needs to be held with the fervor that leads to smugness and a sneer. Christians shouldn't be envied for those things. It isn't a question of finding the correct object for unblinking certainty but rather learning to do without.

(July 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: Yes, because clearly that's the only alternative to being an asshole.

Go stub your toe or something.

Quote:Good it sounds as though you understand the difference between understand and accept

Seems as though you don't understand vernacular English; 'to get' something means 'to understand';it has nothing to do with acceptance.

Quote:I don't think materialism is necessary for atheism,

You're right,it isn't. Atheism is only a disbelief in gods,nothing else is inferred or may be implied. My atheism is an effect of my skepticism,as is my materialist 'view.' (ie seems to be the case due to a lack of credible evidence to the contrary)

(July 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm)padraic Wrote:

Quote:I don't think materialism is necessary for atheism,

You're right,it isn't. Atheism is only a disbelief in gods,nothing else is inferred or may be implied. My atheism is an effect of my skepticism,as is my materialist 'view.' (ie seems to be the case due to a lack of credible evidence to the contrary)

Nope, he still won't get it.

Again I refer to the equally long thread on ravingatheists.com forum from a year ago filled with just as many heads banging against the Selliejoup wall.

(July 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm)Napoleon Wrote:

(July 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: Yes, because clearly that's the only alternative to being an asshole.

Go stub your toe or something.

A few words from some masters; (I AM taking the piss)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0cJBEMiN1c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Z64gn87Io

(July 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm)padraic Wrote:

Quote:Good it sounds as though you understand the difference between understand and accept

Seems as though you don't understand vernacular English; 'to get' something means 'to understand';it has nothing to do with acceptance.

Quote:I don't think materialism is necessary for atheism,

You're right,it isn't. Atheism is only a disbelief in gods,nothing else is inferred or may be implied. My atheism is an effect of my skepticism,as is my materialist 'view.' (ie seems to be the case due to a lack of credible evidence to the contrary)

It seems as though the only way for me to 'get' your position is to accept it. Strangely enough you may proclaim "there is not enough evidence" as a stand alone and objective comment. Until you realise otherwise there is no where to go and nothing to 'get'. Illustrated by your view requiring "credible evidence".


I find it as frustrating as you do, you think I'm not getting it and I think you're not getting it. Who's right? I say me, you say you.

Out of interest, who was once religious and who was not?

And are you from a predominantly area? I say this as a sanctimonious cunt as I was brought up secularly, and am from one of the most secular countries in the world. So religion played no role in my past.

(July 18, 2012 at 3:39 am)Selliedjoup Wrote: Out of interest, who was once religious and who was not?

And are you from a predominantly area? I say this as a sanctimonious cunt as I was brought up secularly, and am from one of the most secular countries in the world. So religion played no role in my past.

Sanctimonious because all these nouveau atheists flash it around like it really makes them hot stuff? For a cunt, you do have decent self knowledge.