(July 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm)nazra7 Wrote: Yes it is a mindless ad hominen as you have no justification for it.

My AS level qualification in Critical Thinking would disagree with you.

(tooting my own trumpet and what)

(July 18, 2012 at 8:10 pm)Napoleon Wrote:

(July 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm)nazra7 Wrote: Yes it is a mindless ad hominen as you have no justification for it.

My AS level qualification in Critical Thinking would disagree with you.

(tooting my own trumpet and what)

Now that you have ridiculed me for bad arguments, so too should I ridicule you for that fallacious appeal to authority.

But I won't because I'm better then that.

(July 18, 2012 at 8:15 pm)nazra7 Wrote: Now that you have ridiculed me for bad arguments, so too should I ridicule you for that fallacious appeal to authority.

But I won't because I'm better then that.

Ouch you got me there.

Your stupid is rubbing off on me.

(July 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm)Napoleon Wrote:

(July 18, 2012 at 8:15 pm)nazra7 Wrote: Now that you have ridiculed me for bad arguments, so too should I ridicule you for that fallacious appeal to authority.

But I won't because I'm better then that.

Ouch you got me there.

Your stupid is rubbing off on me.

Leave it to a person like you to degrade pure reason.

(July 18, 2012 at 8:18 pm)nazra7 Wrote: Leave it to a person like you to degrade pure reason.

Oh, I'm really starting to get offended here lol.

(July 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm)nazra7 Wrote: The problem is you're assuming its slavery and I'm showing you why that's not necessarily the case, if you have a problem with that then you're no freethinker.

You've shown nothing of the sort. It says slavery, slavery is clearly defined, and you just want to feel better about it.

(July 18, 2012 at 8:23 pm)aleialoura Wrote:

(July 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm)nazra7 Wrote: The problem is you're assuming its slavery and I'm showing you why that's not necessarily the case, if you have a problem with that then you're no freethinker.

You've shown nothing of the sort. It says slavery, slavery is clearly defined, and you just want to feel better about it.

Slavery is defined as owning a person as legal property AND forcing them to obey. There is no evidence that the servants in the OT were forced to obey their masters and evidence for suggesting otherwise that I will not repeat, rather you can go back and look at it for yourself.

This proves you did not read my argument.

(July 18, 2012 at 7:59 pm)nazra7 Wrote: Slavery is defined as owning a person as legal property AND forcing them to obey. There is no evidence that the servants in the OT were forced to obey their masters and evidence for suggesting otherwise that I will not repeat, rather you can go back and look at it for yourself.

This proves you did not read my argument.

Oh please...

Your idea that anyone would pay money for a slave, then not expect them to obey them is pretty ridiculous. Especially because slavery was practiced by every culture in the area at the time. There are many non-Biblical historical sources that show just how slavery was practiced, and it is not the 'warm fuzzy' version you want to believe it was.

But I do have to give you some credit for your impressive mental gymnastics.

Quote:If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. Exodus 21:1-4

Sounds like forcing slaves to obey to me. "You can go free, but you must leave your wife/children behind, they're stuck with me."

Quote:If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. Exodus 21:20-21

Why did they beat slaves? For fun?

Quote:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 1 Peter 2:18

Do you know what submit means? OBEY!

Want me to go on? I can. I can go on all day.

Quote:Want me to go on? I can.

I'm guessing 'probably not.'