(July 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm)nous Wrote: You weren't replying to be "friendly," unless you're a sociopath. Belittling someone else's ethics isn't conventionally friendly.

i knew it frankie, you're a fuckin babie-eating sociopath! freak.

hahaha

(July 29, 2012 at 4:41 pm)jackman Wrote:

(July 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm)nous Wrote: You weren't replying to be "friendly," unless you're a sociopath. Belittling someone else's ethics isn't conventionally friendly.

i knew it frankie, you're a fuckin babie-eating sociopath! freak.

hahaha

Ah nooooos, ma cover iz blooown.

cock ........mmmmmm



i mean sausauge...mmmmmmmmm























(cock)

(July 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm)nous Wrote: I'm a little disappointed by the defensiveness of some of the replies. If you're not a veg*n, why reply at all? I hoped for better from this place.

1- Well, your disapointment is duly noted and straight away dismissed, perhaps the defensiveness is because when these topics arise, there's usually a climb from vegans to the moral high ground. Someone else pointed that out.

2- Anyone in this forum is free to express themselves on any public topic. I don't think you have the authority to say or even suggest, who should or shouldn't post in a thread.

3- Well, you hope alot, but that small post just goes to show how high you think of yourself. If we aren't good enough for you, we're not forcing you to stay.

In conclusion, people are free to take their own lifestyle choices, vegans, omnivores, carnivores, insectivores, whatever, as long as they don't infringe on anyone else's rights. Some vegans are very alike religionist fundies, as they easily get 'offended', they like to preach about it, and have a 'holier than thou' attitude towards others. Are you one of them?

(July 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(July 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm)nous Wrote: I'm a little disappointed by the defensiveness of some of the replies. If you're not a veg*n, why reply at all? I hoped for better from this place.

1- Well, your disapointment is duly noted and straight away dismissed, perhaps the defensiveness is because when these topics arise, there's usually a climb from vegans to the moral high ground. Someone else pointed that out.

2- Anyone in this forum is free to express themselves on any public topic. I don't think you have the authority to say or even suggest, who should or shouldn't post in a thread.

3- Well, you hope alot, but that small post just goes to show how high you think of yourself. If we aren't good enough for you, we're not forcing you to stay.

In conclusion, people are free to take their own lifestyle choices, vegans, omnivores, carnivores, insectivores, whatever, as long as they don't infringe on anyone else's rights. Some vegans are very alike religionist fundies, as they easily get 'offended', they like to preach about it, and have a 'holier than thou' attitude towards others. Are you one of them?

1. So it's rational to react to those instances every time a new post on the topic is made?

2. I didn't suggest otherwise.

3. I didn't suggest otherwise, and you're again arguing against a straw man.

(July 29, 2012 at 11:36 am)aleialoura Wrote: I am actually preparing myself for a change to the vegan lifestyle. I was thinking hard about it, and I'm displeased with myself that I have such a cognitive dissonance where eating meat is concerned. I would never in a million years harm/kill an animal. I'm the type of person who literally cries like an idiot when someone smashes a harmless spider, just minding it's own business. If a cow were to be slaughtered right in front of me, I would be very upset, yet I ate the meat of these animals all my life. I've already cut out meat from my diet completely. After a huge trial that's coming up in August, I am quitting all animal products and cigarettes. Right now I'm just too stressed.

I would never impose my choice upon another, nor would I dare lecture anyone for their choices. This is just my choice, and I'm feeling better already because of it.

Good luck with that, I'm throwing my hat in with middle eastern and Med foods for somebody going vegan -especially if you like a little heat- lol.

(July 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm)nous Wrote: I hoped for better from this place.

You really haven't been here very long have you?

Lighten the fuck up.

Quote: Belittling someone else's ethics isn't conventionally friendly.

A person's ethics are fair game. Attacking a belief or position is not the same as attacking the person.

We have no obligation to meet your personal expectations. It is you who has to fit in if you are going to stay.We owe you nothing.

(July 29, 2012 at 11:36 am)aleialoura Wrote: I am actually preparing myself for a change to the vegan lifestyle. I was thinking hard about it, and I'm displeased with myself that I have such a cognitive dissonance where eating meat is concerned. I would never in a million years harm/kill an animal. I'm the type of person who literally cries like an idiot when someone smashes a harmless spider, just minding it's own business. If a cow were to be slaughtered right in front of me, I would be very upset, yet I ate the meat of these animals all my life. I've already cut out meat from my diet completely. After a huge trial that's coming up in August, I am quitting all animal products and cigarettes. Right now I'm just too stressed.

I would never impose my choice upon another, nor would I dare lecture anyone for their choices. This is just my choice, and I'm feeling better already because of it.

How long ago did you stop eating meat, Alei? Because you're being a lot more mature about it than I was. But of course, when I became a vegetarian I was 16 and not willing to see it from anyone else's point of view when it came to, well, anything (I had kind of a "why can't you see what I see?" kind of outlook). I still get annoyed by the jokes ("bacon, good", "People Eating Tasty Animals", etc.). At times, I feel like punching the person who made the joke. But I have stopped the lecturing.

To answer the OP's question, I don't eat meat. I'm not completely vegan. I wish I could be a vegan. However, I have not met a dairy or egg alternative that I actually liked. Although, I do make vegan brownies that are pretty kickass (even my mother likes them, and she's practically a carnivore!)

I stopped after eating steak at a friend's grill out, the last weekend of June. I understand that people don't have the same emotional make-up as I, and that just because something is wrong for me doesn't mean that it's necessarily wrong for other people. All I can do is be true to myself, and change myself when I see there needs changing.

I'm nearly 29, Diamond. When I was 16, I was a little activist about everything.