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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 19, 2012 at 6:18 am
(September 19, 2012 at 5:58 am)jonb Wrote: Ahoy, thar It be a vast sea we be drifting upon, Arrgh!
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 19, 2012 at 7:59 am
(September 19, 2012 at 3:48 am)Waratah Wrote: Could it be a finite universe with infinite universes.
In the case of benevolent creator, there would be benevolent reasons to create infinite sentient life planets with sentient life, wouldn't there?
So I am going to favor infinite universes or infinite universe.
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 19, 2012 at 8:28 am
(September 19, 2012 at 7:59 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (September 19, 2012 at 3:48 am)Waratah Wrote: Could it be a finite universe with infinite universes.
In the case of benevolent creator, there would be benevolent reasons to create infinite sentient life planets with sentient life, wouldn't there?
So I am going to favor infinite universes or infinite universe.
Avast, corsair lad, ye cannot choose which way the wind blows, a cap't can only set the rigging for ifest it dost blow this way or that, Arrgh!
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 19, 2012 at 10:04 am
(September 19, 2012 at 7:59 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (September 19, 2012 at 3:48 am)Waratah Wrote: Could it be a finite universe with infinite universes.
In the case of benevolent creator, there would be benevolent reasons to create infinite sentient life planets with sentient life, wouldn't there?
So I am going to favor infinite universes or infinite universe.
And what exactly does infinity have to do with benevolence?
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 19, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Finite. The universe is no larger than the rate of expansion would allow.
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 19, 2012 at 11:29 pm
IF the universe (i.e., the confines of the big bang) is truly flat, then the universe would be 'measurably' infinite.
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 20, 2012 at 2:00 am
(September 19, 2012 at 11:29 pm)IATIA Wrote: IF the universe (i.e., the confines of the big bang) is truly flat, then the universe would be 'measurably' infinite.
To our observations, I believe the universe is spherical. But remember, by human observations, they thought the sun revolved around the Earth and the stars were fixed in place.
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 20, 2012 at 9:04 am
(September 20, 2012 at 2:00 am)Polaris Wrote: To our observations, I believe the universe is spherical. But remember, by human observations, they thought the sun revolved around the Earth and the stars were fixed in place.
You seriously need to study some physics before engaging these types of topics. A flat universe has nothing to do with pancakes.
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 20, 2012 at 9:28 am
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(September 20, 2012 at 2:00 am)Polaris Wrote: (September 19, 2012 at 11:29 pm)IATIA Wrote: IF the universe (i.e., the confines of the big bang) is truly flat, then the universe would be 'measurably' infinite.
To our observations, I believe the universe is spherical. But remember, by human observations, they thought the sun revolved around the Earth and the stars were fixed in place.
I'm quite confident that the measurements we can make today are a lot more reliable than Bible passages. It's thanks to science that we can even see beyond our atmosphere in detail in the first place.
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RE: Thoughts on the scale of the universe?
September 20, 2012 at 9:45 am
(September 19, 2012 at 3:45 am)cato123 Wrote: For fuck's sake. Are you seriously suggesting that an adult human being in the 21st century doesn't understand the significance of the Cosmic Mircrowave Background Radiation (clue: the universe isn't infinitely large)?
Natural facts are not dependent on human opinion.
The true significance of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation is that no one in our universe can see past this 'wall'. Now there may be nothing and nowhere and no time beyond this wall. But there may also be an infinite, frothy mass of singularity events, each walled off from its neighbor by a 'wall' of cosmic microwave radiation like the membrane of a soap bubble. Both theories are currently (and perhaps permanently) untestable. I see no reason to give primacy to the nothing/nowhere/no time hypothesis when neither view is confirmable.
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