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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 2:25 am
The difference between annoying Christian pillocks and annoying atheist arses is that one is right. Both are annoying.
I'm not convinced that atheists going to christian forums and arguing is effective.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 2:34 am
(October 2, 2012 at 2:25 am)Doubting_Thomas Wrote: ...I'm not convinced that atheists going to christian forums and arguing is effective.
Agreed.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 2:58 am
Polaris Wrote:The sole similarity would be the initiation meal resembling communion, but since food is a common link regarding fellowship (non-religious view), the early apologists were just wasting their time with the issue.
First you try and diminish Paul's sexist views and now this! I'm sorry, but Mithraists were religious and their version of the last supper is just as 'holy' as what the Christian version is like.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 3:13 am
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(October 2, 2012 at 2:58 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Polaris Wrote:The sole similarity would be the initiation meal resembling communion, but since food is a common link regarding fellowship (non-religious view), the early apologists were just wasting their time with the issue.
First you try and diminish Paul's sexist views and now this! I'm sorry, but Mithraists were religious and their version of the last supper is just as 'holy' as what the Christian version is like.
Except Melchizadek pre-dates Mithras.
Sorry. You lose.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 5:00 am
(October 2, 2012 at 3:13 am)Lion IRC Wrote: (October 2, 2012 at 2:58 am)FallentoReason Wrote: First you try and diminish Paul's sexist views and now this! I'm sorry, but Mithraists were religious and their version of the last supper is just as 'holy' as what the Christian version is like.
Except Melchizadek pre-dates Mithras.
Sorry. You lose.
No idea what that is.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 9:05 am
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(October 2, 2012 at 5:00 am)FallentoReason Wrote: (October 2, 2012 at 3:13 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Except Melchizadek pre-dates Mithras.
Sorry. You lose.
No idea what that is.
Pslam 110 and Genesis 14.
Dodgy passages at best. Melchizadek in Pslam could be anyone from King of Salem to a high priest. Salem is traditionally taken as the old name for Jerusalem before the events of the Binding of Isaac.
Many critics have said that the mention of Melchizadek in Genesis 14 doesn't match the flow of the previous verses and would seem to be inserted.
Also I would like to point out that many of the passages in Genesis undermine themselves and have extremely suspect circumstances occurring that would not look out of place as a work of fiction. Using it as a historical document is a huge mistake.
Fact of the matter is even if we were to take all documents regardless of plausibility seriously then Mithra would still have been around long before Christ was even born. Considering how similar their stories are... well it doesn't look good now, does it. If I were Mithra I'd consider suing for plagiarism.
So yeah, try again Lion.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 9:57 am
(October 2, 2012 at 2:58 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Polaris Wrote:The sole similarity would be the initiation meal resembling communion, but since food is a common link regarding fellowship (non-religious view), the early apologists were just wasting their time with the issue.
First you try and diminish Paul's sexist views and now this! I'm sorry, but Mithraists were religious and their version of the last supper is just as 'holy' as what the Christian version is like.
Dude. There are plenty of cultures where food is a key to ceremony and it's not even based on a religious background. Food ceremonies alone do not lean towards the similarity of religions.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 11:22 am
(October 2, 2012 at 9:57 am)Polaris Wrote: (October 2, 2012 at 2:58 am)FallentoReason Wrote: First you try and diminish Paul's sexist views and now this! I'm sorry, but Mithraists were religious and their version of the last supper is just as 'holy' as what the Christian version is like.
Dude. There are plenty of cultures where food is a key to ceremony and it's not even based on a religious background. Food ceremonies alone do not lean towards the similarity of religions.
Yeah I completely agree, but to say Mithraism was a gathering of neighbours over food at best is actually quite laughable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not mocking you here, but I'm seriously wondering to myself if you're genuinely being serious with your view about Mithraism and their holy communion.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 12:37 pm
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(October 2, 2012 at 9:57 am)Polaris Wrote: Dude. There are plenty of cultures where food is a key to ceremony and it's not even based on a religious background. Food ceremonies alone do not lean towards the similarity of religions.
Of course there are, because food is a very real and important concern. You know..real and important things.... the pillars of the fabrications we call myth and religion.
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RE: Ultimate Forum Rules Fail
October 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm
(October 2, 2012 at 12:18 am)Shell B Wrote: Yeah, I'm sure he does. Creeper.
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