Seems like they enjoy, no demand that they remain good little slaves where they don't think for themselves, nor take any responsibility for their actions.... "god did it, made me do it" is the get out of jail free card... no better than muslims who use the same rhetoric.... animals the lot of them imho.

(November 21, 2012 at 4:35 am)Daniel Wrote:

(November 20, 2012 at 3:35 pm)whateverist Wrote: That was my first thought as well. I'm pretty sure believing your's is the only sect doing it right is pretty much a defining characteristic of being a Christian, as far as I can tell.

They believe they know something - totally fundamental to their belief system - that is not found in the Bible. Thus we lowly "true Christians" can't know the truth because we don't have what they have (the watchtower).

You believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Yet Jesus never utters an injunction against it.

Please explain.

There is no escape for your hypocrisy Daniel.

I love definitional arguments..... they're so.... ipse dipsit facto!


1. By definition, Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians
2. By definition, Anglicans are true Christians
3. My definition is correct because as an Anglican I'm a true Christian
4. by definition....

Sickening isn't it??

(November 21, 2012 at 6:48 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(November 21, 2012 at 4:35 am)Daniel Wrote:

You believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Yet Jesus never utters an injunction against it.

Please explain.

Did I miss something from another thread? I didn't know Daniel was a homosexuality = sin kind of guy. It does seem like Christ-ians ought to put more stock in the teachings of Jesus than in the thunderous warnings of the jealous old God of the old testament. And Leviticus .. if ever there was a chapter to throw out that would be the one.

(November 21, 2012 at 6:48 am)Zen Badger Wrote: You believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Yet Jesus never utters an injunction against it.

Please explain.

Correct, Jesus teaches specifically against divorce twice and it's recorded in all the synoptic Gospels (three authors), and Paul is the only one to talk about homosexuality in the NT. It wasn't high on Jesus' agenda because homosexuality is just a specific manifestation of the sin of adultery. The typical Anglican view on divorce is wrong. Surprised to hear that?

(November 21, 2012 at 7:48 am)whateverist Wrote: Did I miss something from another thread? I didn't know Daniel was a homosexuality = sin kind of guy. It does seem like Christ-ians ought to put more stock in the teachings of Jesus than in the thunderous warnings of the jealous old God of the old testament. And Leviticus .. if ever there was a chapter to throw out that would be the one.

I think he falls into the "I hate the sin not the sinner" camp.

(November 21, 2012 at 9:04 am)Daniel Wrote: Correct, Jesus teaches specifically against divorce twice and it's recorded in all the synoptic Gospels (three authors), and Paul is the only one to talk about homosexuality in the NT. It wasn't high on Jesus' agenda because homosexuality is just a specific manifestation of the sin of adultery. The typical Anglican view on divorce is wrong. Surprised to hear that?

So do you define adultery as sex between a married person and someone other than the person to whom they are married? Is avoiding breaking the bond between two married people the main point of making adultery a sin?

If so do you also consider sex between two people who are not married to be a sin or whatever?

If these are both sins, then do you have a problem with a homosexual couple marrying and enjoying non-adulterous sex?

(November 21, 2012 at 9:04 am)Daniel Wrote:

(November 21, 2012 at 6:48 am)Zen Badger Wrote: You believe that homosexuality is a sin.

Yet Jesus never utters an injunction against it.

Please explain.

Correct, Jesus teaches specifically against divorce twice and it's recorded in all the synoptic Gospels (three authors), and Paul is the only one to talk about homosexuality in the NT. It wasn't high on Jesus' agenda because homosexuality is just a specific manifestation of the sin of adultery. The typical Anglican view on divorce is wrong. Surprised to hear that?

So you are advocating marriage for same sex couples then?

Because if they are married adultery would no longer be an issue.