(November 29, 2012 at 12:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: On a slightly (very very slightly) more serious note. I, personally, have no fucking clue what any given female wants, let alone what the majority of them want. Even when I'm explicitly told what a single female wants I find it difficult to make heads or tails of the declaration. Whatever well you drank from that gave you such insight is of serious interest to men at large, I assure you....so if you wanted to share more about what the majority of females want with the rest of us -frequently in the dark on this issue- I would see it as a service to all man-kind. The line to draw water from -that- spring is going to be a long one....

"On a slightly (very very slightly) more serious note. I, personally, have no fucking clue what any given female wants,"...
That's because you're too young and inexperienced...

"Even when I'm explicitly told what a single female wants I find it difficult to make heads or tails of the declaration."...
There's no doubt in my mind that you find it difficult to make heads or tails of what a woman wants. You're not actually listening when a woman tells you what she wants. I've heard this very complaint so many times, and it's a major complaint from women that husbands / boyfriends don't listen to the needs and concerns of their wives / girlfriends...and don't try to fake you're listening just to appease her, because women catch on really quick to that...I'm sharing a bit of experience with you sonny buck...you'll thank me one day.

"Whatever well you drank from that gave you such insight is of serious interest to men at large,"....
From the well of years of experience sonny buck...that'll have to be the same well you drink from.

(November 29, 2012 at 12:57 pm)A Theist Wrote: Pssshhhttt...Ha Ha! You crack me up Summer! You're way too naive and inexperienced yet....it's absolutely nothing to do with the mindset of age, or age itself...this transcends age and mindsets...I've heard very many of the same complaints over the years from both younger and older women about the men they're hooked to....and most women share the same expectations what they want from a man.

So you base your argument on what women should be like within a sociaty on your personal expirience?

You thereby fall into the same category as Drich.

Intersting how you post a link to a text which has a theory on a "WAR on men" which supposedly is a general rule, and then you are not eaven ready to defend this theory - but argue about "what women want".

And the "expirience" thing sounds very washy and weird.

What exactly do you have "expirience" in?
With releationships and the resulting demands of your partners?
With women complaining about emanzipation?

I would be more comfortable if you could give me a study by a institution doing survais on what "women want". - but it wouldnt matter.

Point is. It wouldnt matter if eaven more than 50% of the women within a pluralistic sociaty oppose gender equality.
Because a pluralistic sociaty gives women the right to gender equality.
Or to put it correctly by considering history - women took their right for equality within a pluralistic sociaty.
One can try to convince women to oppose gender euqality and live their life as a housewife within a 1950s style household.

But one can never prohibit, outlaw or eaven undo gender euqality within a sociaty which has already made it part of it`s law.

Women choose their role in life for themselves. - And that is, what I believe - you are uncomfortable with.

You (the "real" man) just dont have the guts to say it here.

(November 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm)jonb Wrote:

(November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm)A Theist Wrote: I'm not implying that either, but the majority of women don't want a stay at home jobless house husband...sure, women want a man who can help with the kids, the cooking and cleaning, but mostly they want a man who has a job and who is contributing to the financial support of the household in addition to knowing how to use tools, do repairs to the house, keep up with the yard work, knows how to work on the car,...this has nothing to do with Christian forums, this is everything to do with what women expect from a husband. I don't know of a single woman who would tolerate a man who just wants to be a house husband and one that she can push around...but you go ahead and choose you a man based on your current worldview...I would really be interested in knowing how that works out....I predict that guy is not going to last long with you.

Twenty 24 years married, how much longer before the wife walks out Mr T?

I've been married for nearly 15 years longer than you have jonb and my wife hasn't walked out on me either.

(November 29, 2012 at 1:22 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(November 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm)jonb Wrote: Twenty 24 years married, how much longer before the wife walks out Mr T?

I've been married for nearly 15 years longer than you have jonb and my wife hasn't walked out on me either.

Which probably says more about her than you ....

(November 29, 2012 at 1:22 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(November 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm)jonb Wrote: Twenty 24 years married, how much longer before the wife walks out Mr T?

I've been married for nearly 15 years longer than you have jonb and my wife hasn't walked out on me either.

But I'm everything you say a woman would not want.

Anyone who disagrees with him is inexperienced and naive.

It's been most fun, but I need to go inform my man that I'm waging a war against him.

(November 29, 2012 at 1:36 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: It's been most fun, but I need to go inform my man that I'm waging a war against him.

Lucky bloke!

Thanks for the pro-tips Dr Phil. There appears to have been more than just water in that well..so I think I'll have to pass bud.

(November 29, 2012 at 2:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Thanks for the pro-tips Dr Phil. There appears to have been more than just water in that well..so I think I'll have to pass bud.

...if you're going to pass on sound advice, then maybe you'd be interested in my most recent thread in the 'Off Topic' page...my guess for you would be, at the bottom of the well...pushed by your wife / girlfriend.

If you are so confident that you know what women want, why does this 'war on men' frighten and upset you?

Is it, perhaps, that you fear a world in which the ideal man is not a power tool-using cave ape because you know that a world in which the ideal man is intellectual and sensitive is a world in which your only relationship would be with Rosie Palms?