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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:03 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 4:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (December 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: That depends on what's being tested and what hypothesis is being made.
Observation: The evidence depends on what's being tested... that's nice and vague, not to mention perfectly circular. Thank you for rewording my question. Now...
Query: ... would you mind answering it, please? I'll even make it easier for you and recap the comments that spawned this line of inquiry:
(December 9, 2012 at 3:24 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: You should take anything that has truth to it as serious, despite what others do.
Response: Your question was answered.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Then you should have no trouble reposting it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:14 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 3:39 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Does anyone else think this guy's a moronic poe?
No, because he's making the same arguments we commonly hear from Christian apologists (the "Jesus-was-a-liar-a-lunatic-or-Lord" line of reasoning) and his feigned indifference to just how unconvincing his arguments are to non-believers is to be expected.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:17 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 5:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then you should have no trouble reposting it.
Response: And you should have no trouble rereading it.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:17 pm
Sure. Just show me where it is and I'll do that.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Reading this topic I feel I entered Kafka's world.
It's impossible to prove something is bullshit.
Anyway, what is Muhammed, the greatest, saying about atheists?
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 5:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Sure. Just show me where it is and I'll do that.
Response: Post 61.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:27 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 4:55 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: (December 9, 2012 at 4:15 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: You do know that Mohammad may have not even existed at all because:
Firstly: We have far to information about this guy, we practically know what he was doing every single day of the week almost (which is a good sign used by professional lie spotters to tell if somebody is lying)
Secondly: the only gaps we have about his life are a whole month long where there is literally nothing said about him, what did he vanish once a year for a whole month? Truth is it was a change of calendar were whole parts of his story were left out, because the first documents about Mohammed came after the calendar change were there new calendar cut out a month and since it was supposed to be written when the calendar had the extra month, this has led some scholars to doubt his very existence.
Just to provoke thought.
Response: There is nothing to think about. For there is no proof you can provide that the existence of Muhammad was made up, such as who made it up, when he was made up, etc. If Muhammad never existed, then we should have such evidence. You do not. Thus the claim is clearly false. Furthermore, if the non-existence of evidence that Muhammad existed is proof that Muhammad did not exist, then according to that very logic, the non-existing evidence of the person who made up Muhammad and the circumstances around it not existing is proof that Muhammad did exist. Sorry but you are the one claim his existence, it not up to me to disprove his existence, you have to prove he did, as you can't disprove a negative.
Show me what is the verified evidence (that been verified outside of Islam) of the existence of Mohammed. As if he did, there would be evidence. If I am wrong I will admit it, only if you provide the evidence.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:35 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 5:27 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Sorry but you are the one claim his existence, it not up to me to disprove his existence, you have to prove he did, as you can't disprove a negative.
Show me what is the verified evidence (that been verified outside of Islam) of the existence of Mohammed. As if he did, there would be evidence. If I am wrong I will admit it, only if you provide the evidence.
Response: Sorry, but you are the one claiming that Muhammad did not exist, so it is up to you to prove your claim. Otherwise, don't make the claim. As for Muhammad's existence, as I just demonstrated, you have no evidence as to who made up Muhammad and the circumstances behind it, which would logically be in existence if Muhammad was made up. It doesn't exist. Thus proving Muhammad existed.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
December 9, 2012 at 5:38 pm
(December 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: (December 9, 2012 at 5:17 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Sure. Just show me where it is and I'll do that.
Response: Post 61.
Flange: You didn't answer the question so much as reword it. However, I think a clarification is in order. I didn't ask what evidence is, I asked you about the evidence you said was testable with regard to whatever truth might be determined from the teachings of Muhammad. Now don't get me wrong, I really don't care one whether you answer this point or not - it's merely that the people playing along at home are liable to think that the evidence you would have us believe is there actually might not be.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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