(January 29, 2013 at 7:43 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: And considering most lyrics in most songs are totally shit... you also ignore all of the lyrics that don't fit your current understanding of them.

There's a reason I say that understanding is blind

Hmm...

When I write lyrics I don't do it so others will understand what I mean, I do it so others can find a meaning in it for themselves. Why should other people concern themselves with what I am feeling at that time?

You apply your own meaning to a song, that is what I believe is the purpose of it. An artist can't tell someone what to feel about their work.

I will agree that most lyrics, especially nowadays, are shit, but if it can create some kind of emotion in someone, then it has done it's job.

(January 30, 2013 at 8:39 am)frankiej Wrote:

(January 29, 2013 at 7:43 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: And considering most lyrics in most songs are totally shit... you also ignore all of the lyrics that don't fit your current understanding of them.

There's a reason I say that understanding is blind

Hmm...

When I write lyrics I don't do it so others will understand what I mean, I do it so others can find a meaning in it for themselves. Why should other people concern themselves with what I am feeling at that time?

You apply your own meaning to a song, that is what I believe is the purpose of it. An artist can't tell someone what to feel about their work.

I will agree that most lyrics, especially nowadays, are shit, but if it can create some kind of emotion in someone, then it has done it's job.

Yep, Hitchens for example was really wordy. Important and had facts on his side. But how many syllables do you need to say "God is Fake"

Art is what works.

ABBA's strength was not writing Shakespeare lyrics, but the vocals and the musical note choices and riffs and ups and downs in the audible sound are to me, on par with any metal band I have liked.

You don't sell 350 million records in 40 years if you suck.

(January 30, 2013 at 8:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Hey if you hate me and hate ABBA, you are doing a horrible job ignoring me.

Yes you are a xenophobe, otherwise you wouldn't have made the comments about my taste in music and equate it to sexuality.

Again, you can't reasonably conclude that, as I may just be trolling out of boredom.

Quote:Here is how adults handle likes and dislikes.

Person A, "I like X"

I agree. Adults (straight ones anyway) don't make a dramatic fuss about liking X and not being ashamed of it anymore.

Ok 200 million sucks on what planet?

(January 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ok 200 million sucks on what planet?

The Bee Gees sold over 200 million. QED and checkmate.

P.S. I agree, there's no shame in liking a band that sucks.

(January 30, 2013 at 11:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(January 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ok 200 million sucks on what planet?

The Bee Gees sold over 200 million. QED and checkmate.

Any band would be lucky to sell 1 million. I misquoted a source. ABBA if wiki is correct still kicks ass for selling 200 million. And every post anyone reads about this might turn someone new onto them.

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ABBA sucks so bad we are still talking about them today.

(January 30, 2013 at 10:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ok 200 million sucks on what planet?

Were you paying attention when I said that Twilight series books have shipped ~110 million units in 1/4th the time it took ABBA to get to 200 million records?

Funnily, we're only talking about ABBA today because a fan of ABBA (and there are fans of everything) brought it up, and we're talking to them. We don't have to

I really doubt that every post here might turn someone new onto them... we have youtube and various other methods by which to preview music before we buy it. Someone can easily see if they want something or don't nowadays, and it doesn't take blindly buying an entire album (usually for 1-4 songs on it) just to try it out.

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AGAIN. And I'm trying to speak plainly to you...



This has sold *half* the units that ABBA has moved in 40 years... in 10 years. In 40 years, it's wholly possible that it will have sold more than twice what ABBA has managed in the same amount of time (of 40 years). This is without counting soundtrack sales or movie sales or anything (which have grossed considerably higher than Mama Mia)... it's the book series.

Violet, they didn't suck, they had great voices and the guys were awesome musicians. I do understand the backlash and I never claimed their lyrics were deep.

But I do understand stuff being overplayed. I hate Jimmy Buffet precisely because of two guys I went to college with loading up the juke box every time I was at that bar. Same damned 4 Buffet songs over and over and over and over and over.

But that does not mean Buffet sucked. Just means I don't like him.