(January 31, 2013 at 4:46 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote: How could I miss that?

I have no idea.

Dude, I'm just gonna say it...

You're a liar, or a troll. Probrably both...
It was sarcasm as you ignored the point only 2 posts above.
Thank you for playing, come back soon.
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(January 31, 2013 at 4:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Dude, I'm just gonna say it...

You're a liar, or a troll. Probrably both...
It was sarcasm as you ignored the point only 2 posts above.
Thank you for playing, come back soon.
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You have a problem. Maybe medication could help with that.

I engaged you in good humour and with honest intent at some worthwhile dialogue. Somehow you've arrived at defcon 1. Nothing I'm saying seems to quell the Navy seal within.

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(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote: I'm not talking about Parthenogenesis . I'm talking about a virgin getting pregnant and having a baby.

Asexual reproduction its the same thing.

(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote: There's not much to it really. A virgin gets a little semen in her vagina (past her unbroken hymen), and conceives a child...

Marry: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?"

A quote from the Quran but she say something like that in the Bible, the book Islam ripped off, it's easier to rip something off than invent something entirely new yourself. But I don't think Mary would be asking about that if she knew a bit of semen had gone up there. They would have known the basics of biology. It was clearly meant to be a miracle story in archetypal hero tradition. But if you believe in a God who does nothing, other than create the universe originally as a God of the gaps then that still much the same thing as atheism. A God that you know nothing about and does absolutely nothing other than create the big bang is the same in practice as a God who doesn't exist. There's no real reason why we should care about something like that even if it did exist.

Christianity not only has a God who does something in terms of miracles and such but became a human to share in our Earthly experience. Before suffering and dying on the cross as a sacrifice to himself to free humanity of sin (rules he imposed to begin with) and all that business. So there would be a point to that God. There wouldn't be any point to your unfalsifibale God who exists because you think he does. You either go the whole way with full on supernatural magic, miracles, spiritual healings, saints and angels, holy relics, demonic possession, you've got Satan there and everything else. Or you don't bother. The complete package comes with a hefty burden of proof because of the nature of all the potentially testable claims. There have been studies into whether prayer works for instance, apparently it doesn't.

(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote:

(January 31, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Zone Wrote:

Quote:11=3

You can believe in something and that belief can be wrong then, if that's what you're demonstrating.

But it's not wrong. It's easy to prove too.

Sure 11 (in binary) is equal to 3 in octal/decimal/hex/etc..
But you can't just produce a symbol with a standardized meaning and assume people are going to understand your hidden meaning for that symbol.

(January 31, 2013 at 7:47 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote: But it's not wrong. It's easy to prove too.

Sure 11 (in binary) is equal to 3 in octal/decimal/hex/etc..
But you can't just produce a symbol with a standardized meaning and assume people are going to understand your hidden meaning for that symbol.

Ahhhh, you are the only one who has proven to me they can "think outside the box"... Nice...

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(January 31, 2013 at 7:15 pm)Zone Wrote:

(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote: I'm not talking about Parthenogenesis . I'm talking about a virgin getting pregnant and having a baby.

Asexual reproduction its the same thing.

(January 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm)catfish Wrote: There's not much to it really. A virgin gets a little semen in her vagina (past her unbroken hymen), and conceives a child...

Marry: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?"

A quote from the Quran but she say something like that in the Bible, the book Islam ripped off, it's easier to rip something off than invent something entirely new yourself. But I don't think Mary would be asking about that if she knew a bit of semen had gone up there. They would have known the basics of biology. It was clearly meant to be a miracle story in archetypal hero tradition. But if you believe in a God who does nothing, other than create the universe originally as a God of the gaps then that still much the same thing as atheism. A God that you know nothing about and does absolutely nothing other than create the big bang is the same in practice as a God who doesn't exist. There's no real reason why we should care about something like that even if it did exist.

Christianity not only has a God who does something in terms of miracles and such but became a human to share in our Earthly experience. Before suffering and dying on the cross as a sacrifice to himself to free humanity of sin (rules he imposed to begin with) and all that business. So there would be a point to that God. There wouldn't be any point to your unfalsifibale God who exists because you think he does. You either go the whole way with full on supernatural magic, miracles, spiritual healings, saints and angels, holy relics, demonic possession, you've got Satan there and everything else. Or you don't bother. The complete package comes with a hefty burden of proof because of the nature of all the potentially testable claims. There have been studies into whether prayer works for instance, apparently it doesn't.

Seriously man, you went from talking about Parthenogenesis to the "immaculate conception"??? Drop the supernatural BS and deal with what I write. I'm getting tired of stating this over and over...
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(January 31, 2013 at 8:01 pm)catfish Wrote:

(January 31, 2013 at 7:47 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Sure 11 (in binary) is equal to 3 in octal/decimal/hex/etc..
But you can't just produce a symbol with a standardized meaning and assume people are going to understand your hidden meaning for that symbol.

Ahhhh, you are the only one who has proven to me they can "think outside the box"... Nice...

Or it just means I spend too much time inside a particular box where bin/oct/dec/hex mix and mingle too often.

Where's that? The Matrix?
Think about this, the universe is most likely binary...
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catfish Wrote:Because I know where a "straight" answer gets me. Into a debate about you needing proof of God.

I'm a Christian and proud of it and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Do you believe this?

(January 31, 2013 at 8:48 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:

catfish Wrote:Because I know where a "straight" answer gets me. Into a debate about you needing proof of God.

I'm a Christian and proud of it and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Do you believe this?

Not in a literal sense. As a parable, yeah...
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(January 31, 2013 at 9:45 pm)catfish Wrote:

(January 31, 2013 at 8:48 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Do you believe this?

Not in a literal sense. As a parable, yeah...
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I think you meant to say "allegory", because how are two sentences which don't form a story a parable?