The noodle. It means I agree with you

That's cool i never knew that haha thanks

(February 9, 2013 at 10:31 am)Kayenneh Wrote: This is only your definition of incorrect usage, and your opinion doesn't matter.

Completely incorrect. I've supported my usage with dictionary definitions. Dictionaries reflect standard usage.

Quote:And when you start insulting and attacking people based upon your opinion (which is wrong, btw), you're making it my business and I'm telling you to comply.

Telling me with mod hat on or off?

So apart from the derailing, the trivial side-notes I.e. defining 'The noodle' and such I think (assuming I didn't miss it being fully explained to John) I will try and show you all and him why he garnered the outrage that he did.

Firstly, sensitive subjects. There are many 'sensitive' topics that people still do not like discussing. Heck, we're all seen as very liberal as far as religious discussion goes. Most people of all religions (or of a lack-of such) do not like to express their opinions or open them up to critiquing. I do not for one second think that John is wrong for stepping on a sensitive subject purely on the basis that it is sensitive. What would be wrong is acknowledging that it is sensitive to a particular person and going ahead and saying it to them anyway.

The main point, however, is that John took the whole situation out-of-proportion in order to make the 'insult', as it were. John, you would be right in saying that it is ironic if Tara was imposing her (I don't know which you prefer so you'll have outline that for me! Until then, I'll assume her) beliefs on her employer. For example: An originally male trans-gendered person attempts to use the female toilet in their workplace and find they are not allowed. They go through a lengthy process of forcing politically correct people to observe 'their right' to be acknowledged as a female and subsequently, they (and not men, just other 'trans-gendered' people) are allowed to use the female toilet. If they then went on to criticise this guy, that would be ironic. I'm not going to assume the background of this whole situation but from what I've discovered so far, nothing of this nature has been the case.

The reason you have been lambasted is because you decided to throw caution (and logic) to the wind in order to hurt another human-being. Not only did you risk hurting them but you also risked (and clearly did) lose your credibility in the process. It may seem easy to ridicule others because; to be frank, I have seen atheists being insulting to religious people here, but that doesn't make it right. So from a (hopefully) impartial perspective I believe this should clear up your confusion.

(February 9, 2013 at 11:12 am)John V Wrote:

(February 9, 2013 at 10:31 am)Kayenneh Wrote: And when you start insulting and attacking people based upon your opinion (which is wrong, btw), you're making it my business and I'm telling you to comply.

Telling me with mod hat on or off?

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Didn't end well for Mr. Kenny.

* Nine shrugs. I make myself laugh at least.

(February 9, 2013 at 11:12 am)John V Wrote: Completely incorrect. I've supported my usage with dictionary definitions. Dictionaries reflect standard usage.

Dictionaries have also been known to define words wrong. I suggest you stick to scientific data regarding trans-people and not to your opinion as to what a woman is.

Quote:Telling me with mod hat on or off?

Mod hat on. And I have to rephrase myself, I'm not telling you to, but asking you to choose kindness instead of cruelty.

(February 9, 2013 at 12:30 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: Dictionaries have also been known to define words wrong.

Maybe, but they tend to be much, much more accurate than biased nobodies on the internet, don'tcha think?

(February 9, 2013 at 1:09 pm)John V Wrote: Maybe, but they tend to be much, much more accurate than biased nobodies on the internet, don'tcha think?

I don't know how my more accurate dictionaries are than you, but maybe you should take a gander at what modern psychology is saying about these topics. And you were right when you said dictionaries reflect usage. I'm about to blow your mind: Sometimes people use words incorrectly and someone words/ideals change.

(February 9, 2013 at 1:31 pm)Annik Wrote: I don't know how my more accurate dictionaries are than you, but maybe you should take a gander at what modern psychology is saying about these topics. And you were right when you said dictionaries reflect usage. I'm about to blow your mind: Sometimes people use words incorrectly and someone words/ideals change.

No shit, Sherlock. Violet and I discussed this awhile ago.

(February 9, 2013 at 8:21 am)John V Wrote: @ Violet:

Your position seems to be that genitalia has nothing to do with womanhood.

I'd give that female genitalia is associated with womanhood, but when it gets down to the dirty: it's not the thing we're thinking of when we imagine a woman.

I mean... dear God, I hope it isn't XD

Quote:IIRC TJ has expressed loathing toward her penis, and given the funding would undergo elective surgery to have it removed and have a vagina installed (I only pick on TJ because I can't recall if you have expressed similar feelings and desires). Genitalia seems pretty important to her.

On the face of it, these are contradictory. How do you reconcile them?

While vaginas aren't necessarily part of a woman, they are usually considered 'prettier' than a penis would be... and prettiness is a major facet of womanhood, stroven for by many a woman. She probably considers a penis to be a major detraction from her beauty... but I can't speak wholly on the subject: it's likely also down to her sexual preferences.

I mean, for me: I would rather be rid of my penis than have a vagina. I'm not rid of it today, because I would rather suffer a little today for a wonderful life with sexual gratification and total comfort in my body (and sleeping nude would be nice... I just can't stand how the damn thing flips and flops). I loath the thing as well, but that is because I have a female's brain, if I remember certain studies correctly and stuff Femalehood ≠ womanhood

If I was told I'd never be able to undergo my surgery... I'd at least cut out/off my testes. I'd be about 50% more comfortable with having a penis if it wasn't filling me with DHT for no goddamn reason

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(February 9, 2013 at 10:00 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Tara and Lilly are both women, because they say so.

Actually, we're not women because we say so, since I could say I was Abraham Lincoln and be wrong (at least in my intent). We're women because we conform to 'womanhood' (or at least, 90% of it).