Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

We also use the free thinking to tell you to SHUT UP, dipshit

(March 5, 2013 at 2:25 pm)xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

We also use the free thinking to tell you to SHUT UP, dipshit

Very clear rebuttal of what I said there. That goes a long way toward the GOLD CUP, proving atheists are simply smarter than everyone else.

(March 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm)jstrodel Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 2:25 pm)xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx Wrote: We also use the free thinking to tell you to SHUT UP, dipshit

Very clear rebuttal of what I said there. That goes a long way toward the GOLD CUP, proving atheists are simply smarter than everyone else.

You mean the "Holy" Grail, some pieces of shit some guy placed anywhere

Guy 1: Hey, lets put some shit over here! Imagine all the gullible dumbasses!
Guy 2: Sure! I love overglorified pieces of shit!
Guy 3: COMMENCE DICK-RIDING!

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

Are you not getting enough of your fucking religious instruction in your church? Why is it so hard for you to accept that other people have differing beliefs than you, and that you already have a place set up to educate those who want it into that belief?

Hearing you talk about anyone else forcing an educational standard on people is almost dizzying in its irony quotient.

(March 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

Are you not getting enough of your fucking religious instruction in your church? Why is it so hard for you to accept that other people have differing beliefs than you, and that you already have a place set up to educate those who want it into that belief?

Hearing you talk about anyone else forcing an educational standard on people is almost dizzying in its irony quotient.

Just ignore the arrogant dickhead

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

Well, let us say we have religious education in public schools (just for the sake of argument). What beliefs should be taught? Catholicism? Islam? Judaism? Protestantism (if so, which branch?)?
Personally, I think public education should stick to facts (which have a basis in reality), not beliefs.

(March 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm)festive1 Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

Well, let us say we have religious education in public schools (just for the sake of argument). What beliefs should be taught? Catholicism? Islam? Judaism? Protestantism (if so, which branch?)?
Personally, I think public education should stick to facts (which have a basis in reality), not beliefs.

I am not really sure. Maybe the state should give some sort of subsidy to private schools to set things up their own way. I find it incredibly hypocritical to hear liberals who supposedly love freedom talk about imposing their education on everyone else through taxation and forcing people to accept their philosophy. A free thinker, huh.

Do you really think that modern science is the place to turn for "facts"? The models that science creates, it is debatable whether they actually exist. Religious belief certainly exists as a cultural force. You can see it working in charities around the world that do billions of dollars worth of work, maybe trillions of dollars.

(March 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm)festive1 Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Atheists are free thinkers, meaning they use the legal system to move money around and force people to accept their view of education.

Well, let us say we have religious education in public schools (just for the sake of argument). What beliefs should be taught? Catholicism? Islam? Judaism? Protestantism (if so, which branch?)?
Personally, I think public education should stick to facts (which have a basis in reality), not beliefs.

How about none?

(March 5, 2013 at 2:49 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I am not really sure. Maybe the state should give some sort of subsidy to private schools to set things up their own way. I find it incredibly hypocritical to hear liberals who supposedly love freedom talk about imposing their education on everyone else through taxation and forcing people to accept their philosophy. A free thinker, huh.

Are you... are you actually being serious? Having schools offer a nondenominational curriculum- because, again, not everybody has your beliefs nor should they have to- is "forcing" a philosophy on them? And teaching your religious beliefs exclusively wouldn't be forcing that philosophy on people? If not, what is your alternative?

Are you not aware that religious schools already exist in much of the western world unmolested? Can you provide to me a single cogent reason why a religious school should get preferential financial aid from the government merely by dint of being religious, beyond that you like it that way?

And can you not see the immense irony of a religious person complaining about taxation, given the huge breaks churches already get in that regard???

Quote:Do you really think that modern science is the place to turn for "facts"? The models that science creates, it is debatable whether they actually exist.

And yet, those theoretical models can at least be tested and found out one way or the other, unlike religious claims. Also, I find it amazing that you can accept all the benefits of science (you're still alive after thirty, for example. And that computer you're typing on wasn't developed through prayer either) and then have the hide to turn around and denigrate it to preserve your pet beliefs.

Quote: Religious belief certainly exists as a cultural force. You can see it working in charities around the world that do billions of dollars worth of work, maybe trillions of dollars.

Cultural is not the same as factual. Belief in a flat earth was cultural, at one time.

Also, I don't believe for a second that religion is the only reason that charity work is done. I think that without it, people would still be helping the needy, they just wouldn't be shipping out the credit for it to a bunch of layabouts in robes with superiority complexes.