From the perspective of theistic evolution, a person is designed to emerge out of the evolutionary chain. The fact that they are created by God gives them their rights and sense of self respect which is grafted into them psychologically and their eyes are opened to recognize that they are different from animals. From the perspective of naturalistic evolution, I really do not see any way to value a human more than an amoeba.

(March 5, 2013 at 12:57 am)jstrodel Wrote: From the perspective of naturalistic evolution, I really do not see any way to value a human more than an amoeba.

Of course you don't. If you are dull dull witted enough to still be a christian in the 21st century, that is prima facia evidence that you would be too dull witted to ever work out the slightly subtler implications of such 20th century hard science as naturalistic evolution.

(March 5, 2013 at 1:56 am)Chuck Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 12:57 am)jstrodel Wrote: From the perspective of naturalistic evolution, I really do not see any way to value a human more than an amoeba.

Of course you don't. If you are dull dull witted enough to still be a christian in the 21st century, that is prima facia evidence that you would be too dull witted to ever work out the slightly subtler implications of such 20th century hard science as naturalistic evolution.

No arguments I can see.

(March 5, 2013 at 2:10 am)jstrodel Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 1:56 am)Chuck Wrote: Of course you don't. If you are dull dull witted enough to still be a christian in the 21st century, that is prima facia evidence that you would be too dull witted to ever work out the slightly subtler implications of such 20th century hard science as naturalistic evolution.

No arguments I can see.

Idiot, the subtle implication of naturalistic evolution is that the need for survival would select humans to be predisposed to think themselves more valuable than any other creature, so as to gain additional impetus to protect themselves and improve survival odds by cooperating with others like them. Therefore if you are not intelligent enough to see through the cause of your predisposition, then you would tend to mindlessly surrender to your predisposition to grasp at straws to maintain the dilusion that you habe have some intrinsic value beyond your agilities and achievements through such insipid fantasies as the christain god, almost like a monkey would mindlessly surrender to his predisposition to howl at banana and throw his own feces.

Depends how much person X is dick-riding Christianity

(March 5, 2013 at 2:40 pm)xXUKAtheistForTheTruthXx Wrote: Depends how much person X is dick-riding Christianity

You seem to have something against dick riding. Have you ever tried it?

Quote:When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'

Good question.

Humans have intellect and the ability to reason, which animals do not have. (granted, some animals can learn simple tricks/commands, if trained properly).

Humans are supposed to be able to use this intellect and reason to be in control of their passions; whereas an animals passions control it (as anyone who has encountered a hungry or randy dog will testify).

(March 5, 2013 at 4:16 pm)Gabriel Syme Wrote: Humans are supposed to be able to use this intellect and reason to be in control of their passions; whereas an animals passions control it (as anyone who has encountered a hungry or randy dog will testify).

Strange then, that those who howl and swoon over christ's "passion" would claim to be human.

(March 5, 2013 at 3:10 am)Chuck Wrote:

(March 5, 2013 at 2:10 am)jstrodel Wrote: No arguments I can see.

Idiot, the subtle implication of naturalistic evolution is that the need for survival would select humans to be predisposed to think themselves more valuable than any other creature, so as to gain additional impetus to protect themselves and improve survival odds by cooperating with others like them. Therefore if you are not intelligent enough to see through the cause of your predisposition, then you would tend to mindlessly surrender to your predisposition to grasp at straws to maintain the dilusion that you habe have some intrinsic value beyond your agilities and achievements through such insipid fantasies as the christain god, almost like a monkey would mindlessly surrender to his predisposition to howl at banana and throw his own feces.

You still havn't proved why human life is more valuable than amoeba's. You can call me an idiot a thousand times and that won't signify anything other than I am an idiot. Evolution doesn't disprove Christianity and in fact many of the main thinkers of evolutionary science have been Christian.

You are not really arguing anything, you are just repeating propaganda.

(March 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You still havn't proved why human life is more valuable than amoeba's. You can call me an idiot a thousand times and that won't signify anything other than I am an idiot.

Well, atleast you are finally accepting the fact that you are an idiot. The value of human life over amoeba's has been proven in the other thread - if not by him, by others. Your blithe ignorance of all arguments does not change the fact.