Finally, the cat is skinned.

(March 25, 2013 at 12:50 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Finally, the cat is skinned.

Finally? That's one of my favorite quotes to use against the fundies.

(March 25, 2013 at 11:40 am)FallentoReason Wrote: This thread was interesting, until catfish started crying about absolutely nothing for the trillionth time...

My first ever member in my ignore list, well done.

Me too. I'm all for a healthy debate and love to exchange information, but this user has nothing of the sort to offer. He intends only to act as an annoyance.

My time is far more valuable than that.

(March 24, 2013 at 12:37 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Too bad Pentecostals shatter that heretical teaching by saying "only through Jesus can you get to the Father".

True most all agree that Jesus is the only name by which we are saved. But does that mean you must confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is "your personal Lord and Saviour"? Does salvation only mean entrance to Heaven? This puzzle is called the "Problem of the Heathens". It has been discussed for centuries and I'm not familiar with any major denomination that thinks only born and bred Christians (as opposed to say Pre-Colombian Native Americans) pass through the pearly gates.

Jesus did say that no one gets to the Father but through Him, sure, but even that isn't a conclusive proof-text.

(March 25, 2013 at 4:54 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(March 24, 2013 at 12:37 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Too bad Pentecostals shatter that heretical teaching by saying "only through Jesus can you get to the Father".

True most all agree that Jesus is the only name by which we are saved. But does that mean you must confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is "your personal Lord and Saviour"? Does salvation only mean entrance to Heaven? This puzzle is called the "Problem of the Heathens". It has been discussed for centuries and I'm not familiar with any major denomination that thinks only born and bred Christians (as opposed to say Pre-Colombian Native Americans) pass through the pearly gates.

Jesus did say that no one gets to the Father but through Him, sure, but even that isn't a conclusive proof-text.

The text also says that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess so wouldn't that mean everyone gets saved?

(March 25, 2013 at 4:58 pm)catfish Wrote: The text also says that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess so wouldn't that mean everyone gets saved?

No. Some will bow to honor their king, others will bend in defeat.