(April 2, 2013 at 9:33 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Of course you wouldn't read people that disagree with you, because you are a free thinker. That is what it means to be a free thinker, when you are a free thinker, you don't read books by people who know more than you.

I think you are adding a little bit of your own bias by attempting to rewrite the dictionary.

Quote:Freethought is a philosophical viewpoint that holds opinions should be formed on the basis of logic, reason and empiricism and not authority, tradition, or other dogmas.

"But honestly it doesn't concern me". - Of course it doesn't concern you to post things that involve the most serious issues in life that you have absolutely no idea whether they are wrong or right. Why would that concern you? It is not like you have to tell the truth. All that matters is that you tried to tell the truth. That is all that counts. The same standard they use in the grown up world, right? When you want to become a doctor, it doesn't matter if you know what you are talking about, it only matters if you try to get things right in your own little way.

Whatever. "But honestly it doesn't concern me". Looks like honesty is something that you think a lot about.

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Right, how do you form opinions based on reason and logic when you aren't even exposed to the primary materials involved? How can you use logic to understand religion when you don't even have the original evidence in front of you?

There is nothing logical about your approach. You are making an argument from authority to a source in which you have no reason to trust as an authority.

You are an atheist. You are not a freethinker. You are doing absolutely everything you can to avoid logic.

(April 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Of course it doesn't concern you to post things that involve the most serious issues in life that you have absolutely no idea whether they are wrong or right.

You are under the delusion that religion holds the monopoly on morality and how to live in this world.

I have to ask..what are "the most serious issues in life".....as told by Strodel......

MrInfidel, I never said that. I said if you were an honest person, you would actually try and understand the issues surrounding the ones you just cut and pasted. It doesn't matter whether Christianity is true or not, you can't just repeat some random stuff you read out of a book. I don't do that, and that is not at all how the Christian faith works.

Atheists are much more reliant on authority than Christians are. The way that Christian belief interacts with authority is very complex and nuanced and would take 100 pages to explain. The way that atheist criticisms of Christianity work is very simple: the atheist takes a 200 page mass market paperback such as "The God Delusion" or some other nonsense by one of the authors you posted (one of the people didn't even have a PhD).

Atheists think that cut and pasting arguments is the same as logic, so long as they trust the the authors who typically aren't even experts in the field they are in (Christopher Hitchens for instance and Richard Dawkins have zero formal training in a field related to religion).

Atheists argue that you don't have to understand religion to argue against it. The atheists argument is based on ignorance.


LOL how to be a good person. What a foolish topic. What about video games and pornography. Sounds like a better one. More adult, more wise. I think video games and pornography are the most serious issues in life. LOL look at me, I am a disgrace.

I don't believe video games and porn are at all important.
But having fun is important and those things can be fun. Everything in moderation.

"How to be a good person" sounds like a fucking jokethread. If someone hasn't figured that out by the time they find this place I doubt anyone here can help them....

You can't find God if you want to be a bad person.

(April 2, 2013 at 9:45 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I said if you were an honest person, you would actually try and understand the issues surrounding the ones you just cut and pasted.

I perfectly understand everything I post. You seem to be the one having an issue with it.

And I do not cut and paste, unless I intentionally quote something and provide the link to its source. Otherwise, I reiterate from what I have learned and read. Big difference.

(April 2, 2013 at 9:49 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You can't find God if you want to be a bad person.

I don't know that there is one, nor do I believe I am a bad person.
I strive to be the best person I can be.