Many Christians will say that Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice....the thing is.....he came back to life and supposedly used super human strength to push the boulder blocking his path. Therefore, if he came back to life....what was he sacrificing?

(May 4, 2013 at 4:38 am)homocidlefreak Wrote: Many Christians will say that Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice....the thing is.....he came back to life and supposedly used super human strength to push the boulder blocking his path. Therefore, if he came back to life....what was he sacrificing?

to the forum Sir Freak.

This has been done over and over please go find one of them and read it, I believe most here are tried if this argument.

Thank you, and yes I have read similar posts, thing is....no one has really answered it to my satisfaction, therefore I have worded it as simple as possible with no other way to avoid the answer...or maybe i just need to search harder, but thank you for your input.

I know we've done this recently and then sometime back not sure how long ago, I can't really imagine that anything new might come up, but hey you never know.

In a nut shell / Through Adam all men are with sin, and under the law, the wage's of sin is death. Therefore if all men are bound to death by the sins of one man, so can all men be loosed from those same binds, by the death of one man without sin. Jesus was without sin was sacrificed and died. God did not trick sin out of its wages, by the resurrection of His Son , had Jesus sinned even once He would not have bean able to take back His life, but as He was without sin it is death which was un-able to hold on to Him.

(May 4, 2013 at 8:00 am)goodnews Wrote: In a nut shell / Through Adam all men are with sin, and under the law, the wage's of sin is death. Therefore if all men are bound to death by the sins of one man, so can all men be loosed from those same binds, by the death of one man without sin. Jesus was without sin was sacrificed and died. God did not trick sin out of its wages, by the resurrection of His Son , had Jesus sinned even once He would not have bean able to take back His life, but as He was without sin it is death which was un-able to hold on to Him.

So what was Jesus' sacrifice?

And thank you for answering

There was no sacrifice. He was put to death just like several other eople who told the truth had. It is a shame christians failed to acknowledge the message of Love but instead chose to worship the messanger.

Here's ten pages of a fairly recent topic. Maybe you'll find your answer here.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-18212.html

(May 4, 2013 at 4:38 am)homocidlefreak Wrote: Many Christians will say that Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice....the thing is.....he came back to life and supposedly used super human strength to push the boulder blocking his path. Therefore, if he came back to life....what was he sacrificing?

Sorry - but the problem with the claim of a sacrifice is that NO sacrifice was needed -

The basis for the christ MYTH is original sin - ie - the sin of EVE in the Garden - a story that is actually a fairy tale - that we KNOW is not true - Humans evolved from other lower animals.

Now - even if YOU believe - and I do not - that there was a sin in the garden fairy tale - the problem is that the bible CLEARLY points out that we are personally responsible only for our own actions - not those of our "fathers" - etc.

So - the only person who needed saving was EVE - who was NOT alive at the time of the christ - if she was EVER alive to begin with. NO one else needed to be saved.

OF course - for the jesus myth to have come back to life - he would have needed something he never had - a life to begin with. Fictional characters only live in the hearts and minds of the deceived and deluded - not in actual reality.

Having said that - there is still ANOTHER problem with the story. THe xtians - while claiming a trinity - claim only ONE GOD. ANd in the bible - it is NOT jesus who became man - it is GOD = which would have meant all three at the same time. (THe word was GOD and the word became flesh)
IF the ONE GOD had become man - completely - it could not return back to being god - it would have had to give up that power to do so to become a human. So - there is a contradiction in the bible here.

OF course - if YOU actually read that section of the bible LITERALLY - it says that the WORD WAS GOD - the word is a STORY - so god was a STORY (not a reality). That is typical usage when the word "word" is used in ancient languages - by itself. WE say - what is the word on the street - we do not mean ONE word - we mean the STORY.

There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Proverbs 16:25