(May 16, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 2:39 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Are you comparing child abuse and war to eating meat? Seiously?

Remember what you are dealing with here, Nora.

Yeah, a barbaric towel head.

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You guys can fuck off with your strawman. Somebody said that preaching is fanatical, not just preaching against meat, preaching in general, so they can piss off. The standard of debating is shit here anyway I don't know why I bother sometimes.

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(May 16, 2013 at 4:16 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Wow, what shitty analogies.

oh piss off, it's the same thing, preaching is preaching. Get that in your hollow head.

(May 16, 2013 at 2:07 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 1:49 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: No. It is fanatical to believe that preaching is a necessary condition to caring, as you did.

It is not.

You are of course welcome to your own opinion. It's when you attempt to foist your values upon others at the expense of their own that lands you in the fanatic's camp.

It is a necessary condition, it's no good shutting the fuck up. So you think speaking out against child abuse is fanatical? Having anti-war protests is fanatical? If I see something wrong, I will speak out, not just sit there like a fat oaf you fucking lazy git. Why don't you follow your own advice and stop preaching then? Wanker.

Learn to read for comprehension, you stupid fuck.

Nobody said you couldn't speak out. Nobody said you SHOULDN'T speak out. What was said, is that one does not need to be a preacher / activist in order to care about an issue. That is ALL.

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(May 16, 2013 at 5:11 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: You guys can fuck off with your strawman. Somebody said that preaching is fanatical, not just preaching against meat, preaching in general, so they can piss off. The standard of debating is shit here anyway I don't know why I bother sometimes.

That isn't what was said.

Your strawman, bro.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 2:07 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: It is a necessary condition, it's no good shutting the fuck up. So you think speaking out against child abuse is fanatical? Having anti-war protests is fanatical? If I see something wrong, I will speak out, not just sit there like a fat oaf you fucking lazy git. Why don't you follow your own advice and stop preaching then? Wanker.

Learn to read for comprehension, you stupid fuck.

Nobody said you couldn't speak out. Nobody said you SHOULDN'T speak out. What was said, is that one does not need to be a preacher / activist in order to care about an issue. That is ALL.

Fuck off. Preaching is nothing except constantly speaking out dickhead. And yes, if somebody really cares about an issue they'd preach about it, not just sit there like an overweight useless twat.

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(May 16, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: That isn't what was said.

Your strawman, bro.

Yes, that is what was said and I'm not your bro.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:31 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Fuck off. Preaching is nothing except constantly speaking out dickhead. And yes, if somebody really cares about an issue they'd preach about it, not just sit there like an overweight useless twat.

If somebody really cared about an issue they wouldn't preach about it, they'd DO something about it.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:33 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 5:31 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Fuck off. Preaching is nothing except constantly speaking out dickhead. And yes, if somebody really cares about an issue they'd preach about it, not just sit there like an overweight useless twat.

If somebody really cared about an issue they wouldn't preach about it, they'd DO something about it.

Preaching about it IS doing something about it, the two concepts are not mutually exclusive, although I wouldn't expect you to understand what that means you prick.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:31 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Learn to read for comprehension, you stupid fuck.

Nobody said you couldn't speak out. Nobody said you SHOULDN'T speak out. What was said, is that one does not need to be a preacher / activist in order to care about an issue. That is ALL.

Fuck off. Preaching is nothing except constantly speaking out dickhead. And yes, if somebody really cares about an issue they'd preach about it, not just sit there like an overweight useless twat.

False dichotomy.

But please, do go on flaming a moderator and see what happens.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:31 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 5:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: That isn't what was said.

Your strawman, bro.

Yes, that is what was said and I'm not your bro.

Wrong.

That's some arrogance you've got there - telling other people what it is that they've said, when it's in black and white right in front of you.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:39 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: But please, do go on flaming a moderator and see what happens.

Yes, yes, here comes the big internet guy pulling rank when he's losing the debate. You really think you can threaten me into ceding the argument? Well think again. If you want to ban me, go on haha, see if I give a shit. The only person acting like an arrogant scumbag is you, look in the mirror.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:44 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 5:39 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: But please, do go on flaming a moderator and see what happens.

Yes, yes, here comes the big internet guy pulling rank when he's losing the debate. You really think you can threaten me into ceding the argument? Well think again. If you want to ban me, go on haha, see if I give a shit. The only person acting like an arrogant scumbag is you, look in the mirror.

Not at all. I'm merely pointing out that throwing around insults when you're wrong is a particularly rude thing to do, and it's impressively stupid when the person who's words you're mis-characterizing happens to have to power to make you go buh-bye.

But please, continue your rant, continue insisting your "winning" a "debate" when the only tool you've got in your bag is to claim someone said something that everyone here can plainly see was not said. Otherwise known as "lying" (owing for the possibility that you just can't read, of course). I've been told that's a sin or something.

(May 16, 2013 at 5:36 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:

(May 16, 2013 at 5:33 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: If somebody really cared about an issue they wouldn't preach about it, they'd DO something about it.

Preaching about it IS doing something about it

In some cases, yes, but not in all cases. For example, preaching the morality of vegetarianism on an internet forum would not be constituted as doing something about the killing of animals. Preaching to others in real life about being vegetarian is not doing something about the killing of animals.

Speaking on a subject doesn't always consitute actually doing something about the subject. At all.

(May 15, 2013 at 1:20 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Anytime there is a thread on vegetarianism/veganism we have one fundie joining, tellin us how immoral we meat eaters are. It seems they can't live without pushing their dogma unto others.

Adventist to my knowledge are the only Christian group I know who try to live as vegetarians or vegans. Most Christians eat pork and other foods that God forbid the Israelites from eating, I know the Adventist practice the Jewish food laws, for me I believe they are missing out on some great food.
If someone wants to be a vegetarian/ vegan I think it should be for one reason health, it can be a healthier way of living if done correctly. As far as being a vegan I do not know how they can feed their babies breast milk and yet think the milk of animals is bad for them. Someone was saying being a vegetarian is good for the environment I do not see where they could get that, it really needs to be explained. So everyone eat as it makes you feel good, just don't waste food.