(May 28, 2013 at 7:42 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Since you mentioned sexism / sexual harassment towards men (which I think is a bigger problem than most people realise), I thought I'd post this:

http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/

Not all the facts on that page are entirely accurate; some have reasonable explanations; others have questionable sources, but a lot of them are verifiable.

Oh, and before someone mentions it, no, I'm not a misogynist. I'm well aware that sexism affects women a hell of a lot too, perhaps more so. My point is, why concentrate on one sex when the problem spans both.

Wow, that is a depressing read, I didn't know we were that oppressed. I already knew the statistics on divorce and child custody cases were like that, but there's a lot of interesting facts there. I would argue that it is much much easier for females to sexually abuse younger males than it is the other way around, that's why stats like that are coming out. Males are not even taken seriously apparently most of the time.

But we have to put things into a bit of perspective, in places like Africa and South America, women are literally considered walking sex objects and they act upon that, so overall globally, sexual harassment is skewed against females, although in the first world, there's a good shout males are more discriminated against.

It is easier for girls to be in vulnerable situations than boys and women against men, so the justice system is naturally slightly biased. Once a boy reaches the age of puberty for example, there's now way they can be sexually harassed without them being able to defend themselves considerably or at least retaliate in some fashion , so they have to be in prison or at the doctor's etc. in very vulnerable situations in order to be exploited by females. But females on the other hand, by their very nature are always vulnerable, because they cannot defend themselves at all against a determined male sexual predator (I don't really use the words " sexual predator" since it's American but I like it because it sounds very aggressive, it's befitting).

I was accused of sexual harassment in work once. Case boilded down to "he's being hard on her because she's a woman", my response "no it's because she's useless". Totally frivilous, but worrying for me at the time. Complaint made by a third party.

(May 28, 2013 at 7:42 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Since you mentioned sexism / sexual harassment towards men (which I think is a bigger problem than most people realise), I thought I'd post this:

http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/

Not all the facts on that page are entirely accurate; some have reasonable explanations; others have questionable sources, but a lot of them are verifiable.

Oh, and before someone mentions it, no, I'm not a misogynist. I'm well aware that sexism affects women a hell of a lot too, perhaps more so. My point is, why concentrate on one sex when the problem spans both.

Wow, I didn't know men were the majority of rape victims. A shame they're also the majority of rapists.

(May 28, 2013 at 6:02 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Actually the Muslim schools I visited treated women better than the British public school I went to here in the UK.

You went to Public School? Like Eton? Woah. You must be loaded! Lucky fucker....


Back to the topic... I've never reported anyone for sexual harassment. I don't care enough really, it's not like I was hurt. The first time that I remember was at Party In The Park in Hyde Park when I was about 14. I was by myself because my sister who I'd come with had left because she felt ill. This creepy man who must have been in his late 40s-early 50s must have noticed I was alone and ended up behind me. He got his dick out and kept rubbing it up against my back. I didn't really know what to do; I didn't want to cause a scene so I just tried to move away. The crowd was so packed that I couldn't move anywhere without him just moving too, so I just tried to ignore it. A group of people somewhere to my right eventually noticed what was happening and grabbed me by the arm and pulled me over to stand with them and made sure I was OK. They shouted over to security to tell them about the pervy old fucker, and they didn't give a shit, so that was the end of that.

Since then I've had the usual hard-on digging into me (deliberately) on the tube and bus, and one time I was on a train in a skirt that was just above my knee and this man sat next to me and started rubbing my knee with his hand, so I got up and sat somewhere else because that's a creepy funking thing to do. Oh god, then there was this bus driver who fancied me. I was always friendly to him because he was always so friendly to me. He got the wrobg end of the stick, because one time I was the only person left on his bus, and he drove the bus off the bus route to a quiet street and stopped (I suddenly thought I was about to be murdered, btw) and he came upstairs to where I was sitting and gave me his life story before practically begging for my number. The most awkward moment of my life!

Oooh, there was another man who was following me for a while. He used to take the same bus home as me late at night. One night he was walking a few feet ahead of me down a backstreet at around 1am then he stopped and turned to me and asked "Are you afraid of me?" I said no, which had been true before he funking asked. Anyway, I decided he must be some kind of psychopath so made sure I didn't say or do anything that would make him strangle me. Then when I had to turn off this road onto my road he took out his phone and asked for my number. I had to give him my real number, because he was obviously going to check it right there and then, and I couldn't say no incase he got upset and killed me. As soon as he was out of sight I added his number to my blocked numbers list, which meant that if he called, my phone wouldn't ring, it would just tell me he'd tried to call. He tried to call me several times a day every day for weeks, I'd started going home from work the long way to avoid him even. Then one day I was leaving my flat and he was sitting on the wall outside my building. He didn't speak to me, thankfully, but after that I kept seeing him all over the place. He'd turn up outside my work, on my street, on my new route home, outside my new work when I changed jobs, outside my local shop. It was so creepy. The last time I saw him he stopped me to talk and told me he'd been looking for a ln English wife and asked me if I was interested. I told him I had a boyfriend, and I never saw him again. Lol

ITT: Coming onto someone is sexual harassment.

A teacher at the school I visitited molested underage boys.

As typical in rural conservative societies which like to avoid scandal, negative publicity and other, he was never noted to the police or prosecuted. But went into early retirement.
I know that he actualy threw himself naked on a boy who was lying in bed asleep. The fact that this was never reported to the police and that no one seemd to care at all, really repulsed me.

Probably one of the main reason why I left that horrible place and generaly look down on on rural conservative communities.

(May 28, 2013 at 9:30 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Since then I've had the usual hard-on digging into me (deliberately) on the tube and bus, and one time I was on a train in a skirt that was just above my knee and this man sat next to me and started rubbing my knee with his hand, so I got up and sat somewhere else because that's a creepy funking thing to do.

That's some creepy shit that happened to you lol In all fairness though, when the tube is completely jam-packed and there is hardly any space, and a girl has her arse wedged against my front, it's VERY difficult not to get a raging hard-on, I try to think of the worst possible images in my head as a distraction. But to dig into someone is another level, totally uncalled for.

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(May 28, 2013 at 9:39 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: A teacher at the school I visitited molested underage boys.

What a sexually-frustrated bastard. In a country where you can find hookers on call 24/7, why would he prey on little kids like that? I just don't understand some people.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to be pursued or lusted after by the opposite sex, most of which becomes sexually inflamed by the sight of me. (Well I can but when I do it is always surprisingly pleasant.) As has been mentioned I guess I can just count myself lucky not to have gotten a lot of pervy old guy attention when I was younger.

I wonder if, all in all, our women posters feel the attraction of males a more burdensome thing or a more fun thing?

(May 29, 2013 at 10:45 am)whateverist Wrote: I can't even imagine what it would be like to be pursued or lusted after by the opposite sex

It doesn't have to be pursuit or lust though, it can be inappropriate comments or actions such as feeling or touching the opposite gender inappropriately.

(May 29, 2013 at 10:28 am)ideologue08 Wrote: In all fairness though, when the tube is completely jam-packed and there is hardly any space, and a girl has her arse wedged against my front, it's VERY difficult not to get a raging hard-on, I try to think of the worst possible images in my head as a distraction. But to dig into someone is another level, totally uncalled for.

Oh, I absolutely agree. When someone has just got an involuntary erection on a busy tube or bus I feel sorry for them. It's not exactly difficult to tell whether any rubbing it deliberate or caused by the movement of the tube/bus, you know. lol