(May 29, 2013 at 9:48 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(May 29, 2013 at 3:18 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Because most people are not familiar with Abiogenesis, however most evolutionists believe in non-intelligent evolution so they are obligated to believe in Abiogenesis as well.

When will these numbskulls lay off the "atheists believe this and that" thing??

I'm going to go with 'never'.

(May 29, 2013 at 9:22 am)wolf39us Wrote: He has a complete disgregard for the definition of a scientific theory. He is either ignorant or unwilling to accept that a Theory is the explanation of observable facts.

Evolution is a fact. The "Theory of Evolution" explains the fact of evolution.

Did you really observe it? No
Was anyone able to replicate the process?No
Why don't you try to create a human being from a cockroach and see?

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(May 29, 2013 at 3:32 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(May 29, 2013 at 3:18 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is called Empirical evidence

Yes, so where's yours? You're the one making the assertion of something additional, after all.

It is not additional, it is similar

The topic is about the first living cell requirements
Its minimal requirements is complicated enough to be created by intelligence
and you failed to give a counter example.

(May 30, 2013 at 8:00 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Did you really observe it? No

Wrong. Do you do any research before you say things?

Quote:Was anyone able to replicate the process?No

Oh my, it really does seem like you're talking out your ass.

For the record, I've been pointing these out to you over several days, now. Are you ignoring them out of sheer cowardice and dishonesty, or are you just too stupid to read things?

Quote:Why don't you try to create a human being from a cockroach and see?

That would be evidence against evolution, you fucking imbecile.

Quote:It is not additional, it is similar

The topic is about the first living cell requirements
Its minimal requirements is complicated enough to be created by intelligence
and you failed to give a counter example.

I don't need to give a counter example to something that was asserted without evidence in the first place. Though, you know, I did: all those entirely replicated changes in animals I linked to up above- all more complex than a simple cell- happened without a guiding intelligence.

What now?

(May 25, 2013 at 4:04 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: One of the most ridiculous claims of evolutionists is that the first life cell was created by an accident

What are the minimum Requirements for that first cell?
It must have systems for
1- Grow
2- Dispose waist
3- Energy management
4- Reproduction
5- Copy/rebuild all of these systems to the new born
6- Coordination between these system.

Finally all of these systems must per-exist life or it will die as some of the minimum requirements aren't there.

I.e. this life cell must per-exist itself to be able to live.
"Circular logic"............simply Impossible

Yet ANOTHER iteration of the most tired, boring, and intellectually-flacid of all arguments, the "missing-link assertion." We dunno yet, so therefore, must be god.

I'm not even going to bother answering this. This reeks of complete, willful ignorance of the topic the OP wants to address. Let me just ask this: Say your mathematical literacy extends only to algebra. Do you really go up to a mathematician who has advanced knowledge of calculus and start trying to tell them how calculus works? No, and you know why? Because you'd look like a conceited, ignorant, unknowledgeable fuckwit if you did. Kind of like now.

Read up on abiogenesis and kindly take a piss while you're at it.

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(May 30, 2013 at 8:00 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:

(May 29, 2013 at 9:22 am)wolf39us Wrote: He has a complete disgregard for the definition of a scientific theory. He is either ignorant or unwilling to accept that a Theory is the explanation of observable facts.

Evolution is a fact. The "Theory of Evolution" explains the fact of evolution.

Did you really observe it? No
Was anyone able to replicate the process?No
Why don't you try to create a human being from a cockroach and see?

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(May 29, 2013 at 3:32 am)Esquilax Wrote: Yes, so where's yours? You're the one making the assertion of something additional, after all.

It is not additional, it is similar

The topic is about the first living cell requirements
Its minimal requirements is complicated enough to be created by intelligence
and you failed to give a counter example.

...Yeah, you don't know the first thing about what you're talking about. But, well, you're a muslim. I'm kind of used to this sort of intellectual vacancy from you brainless fuckheads. In fact I'm more surprised when I DON'T see it, that's how bad it is.

Go back and pass 5th grade science, then I MIGHT consider stooping to address anything you say.

Apparently, there are some places where basic biology is graded on a call and response system.

-Who did it?
-Goddidit.

Good boy, A+

(May 28, 2013 at 5:40 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: that is my point, can you give another example (other than evolution) where a non-intelligent process cannot be replicated.

I gave you a perfect example earlier.

Crystal formation.

We can grow crystals in the lab but we are not making the crystals. We are simply reproducing a NATURAL (read: "coincidental") process.

Please address this. Don't just ignore it like you did last time.

This chap's argument boils down to "I don't believe it, therefore cannot be true."

Well, Muslim Scholar. I don't believe you don't believe. Therefore, you must believe.

See how the world around you does not conform to your prideful arrogance?

I'd thought not.

(May 30, 2013 at 11:33 am)the antithesis Wrote: This chap's argument boils down to "I don't believe it, therefore cannot be true."

Well, Muslim Scholar. I don't believe you don't believe. Therefore, you must believe.

See how the world around you does not conform to your prideful arrogance?

I'd thought not.

I actually shot him this same argument in another thread, and surprise surprise, he just kind of lets it lie.

Great minds think alike, though

And not-so-great minds don't think at all.

Which one I am depends on my caffeine intake.

(May 30, 2013 at 11:33 am)the antithesis Wrote: Well, Muslim Scholar. I don't believe you don't believe. Therefore, you must believe.

Wrong, it means
"I believe that you believe"