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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 9, 2013 at 7:22 am
(June 9, 2013 at 7:17 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (June 9, 2013 at 7:15 am)pocaracas Wrote: Ever heard of "genetic information" MS? Genetic information doesn't explain why and how they record locations, the only logical answer is an external source instructing/making them to do it.
How does a baby know that it has to suckle on a nipple?
How does a baby know how to poop?
How does a baby know how to learn to talk?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 9, 2013 at 7:35 am
(June 9, 2013 at 6:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Do you mean that somehow they decided to record their birth and current location then somehow, at some point they decided to travel the path between them and turning around obstacles, wet land, sand, etc.
Wow, you are really an Atheist.
It's instinct, which I've already shown you the evolutionary process behind; using the magnetite particles in their bodies (also referenced earlier) they can navigate using the earth's magnetic field to the spot they were born; it's just a reverse trip.
But hey, you ignored all that the first time I said it, too...
Quote:Genetic information doesn't explain why and how they record locations, the only logical answer is an external source instructing/making them to do it.
I'm pretty sure there's a fraud law stopping guys like you from describing things they say as "logical."
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 9, 2013 at 7:43 am
(May 28, 2013 at 2:51 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: This external source must be intelligent and have a purpose to send this data to eels
GOD
As ridiculous statement as the one in regards to the tissue box.
No, it is not God holding up the tissue.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 9, 2013 at 9:24 am
(May 28, 2013 at 2:51 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: This external source must be intelligent and have a purpose to send this data to eels
GOD
Wow... so there's a species on this planet which has 100% success rate of divine revelation and it's not humans?! Does your god play around like this for the fun of it or what??
 just absurd.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 9, 2013 at 9:51 am
Why eels? Lots of animals have this type of behavior... Salmon come to mind... Birds migrate and have breeding grounds they return to. Fuck, Emperor penguins walk long distances across Antartica to their breeding grounds, instinctively knowing that in the spring the ice will melt and the ocean will be close by as a source of food and swimming training for their young. That's cooler than eels. Still doesn't prove god though.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 11, 2013 at 7:50 am
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(June 9, 2013 at 9:51 am)festive1 Wrote: Why eels? Lots of animals have this type of behavior... Salmon come to mind... Birds migrate and have breeding grounds they return to. Fuck, Emperor penguins walk long distances across Antartica to their breeding grounds, instinctively knowing that in the spring the ice will melt and the ocean will be close by as a source of food and swimming training for their young. That's cooler than eels. Still doesn't prove god though. Just an example
Instincts itself is a miracle and cannot come by Evolution
It is like imagining that if you study medicine; your children will get some of this info. and gradually if they continue doing that your 1,000s grandchild will be a MD by nature
(June 9, 2013 at 9:24 am)FallentoReason Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 2:51 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: This external source must be intelligent and have a purpose to send this data to eels
GOD
Wow... so there's a species on this planet which has 100% success rate of divine revelation and it's not humans?! Does your god play around like this for the fun of it or what?? According to Islam; yes
All animals and living creatures (except for human) are Muslim by nature and praise God as well.
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No, it is not God holding up the tissue. Can you prove that!
(June 9, 2013 at 7:35 am)Esquilax Wrote: (June 9, 2013 at 6:45 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Do you mean that somehow they decided to record their birth and current location then somehow, at some point they decided to travel the path between them and turning around obstacles, wet land, sand, etc.
It's instinct, which I've already shown you the evolutionary process behind; using the magnetite particles in their bodies (also referenced earlier) they can navigate using the earth's magnetic field to the spot they were born; it's just a reverse trip. yes, they have the tool but no the data
It is like you having a compass, from where you will know why and where to go.
Assumed that you were born in Japan, then grew up and went with your parents to France
Why will you decide suddenly that you want to go back to Japan?
And what is Japan for you anyway?
then while you were traveling you faced the black sea, why and how will you go around that sea and still make it to Japan?
Are you nuts?
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 11, 2013 at 8:09 am
(June 11, 2013 at 7:50 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Instincts itself is a miracle and cannot come by Evolution
You've already been shown the research that it does, liar.
Quote:yes, they have the tool but no the data
It is like you having a compass, from where you will know why and where to go.
They have the data too; they were at the point they return to when they were born.
Quote:Assumed that you were born in Japan, then grew up and went with your parents to France
Why will you decide suddenly that you want to go back to Japan?
And what is Japan for you anyway?
then while you were traveling you faced the black sea, why and how will you go around that sea and still make it to Japan?
Assume you're a little eel. The world is vast and wide, and full of predators that want to kill you and eat you. You need to breed, though... what chance will your babies have against all that?
But you know of one place in the world that's safe enough to survive in; after all, you were born there and you survived. And you know where that spot is, because when you were last there the magnetite in your brain picked up the magnetic field of the earth, as it is wont to do, and you can remember what that was like. So you travel there, knowing that the predators in that place aren't enough to kill eel babies.
Meanwhile those eels that spawn elsewhere have their babies eaten by predators, so their lineage dies out. But yours continues, because you remembered the safe place, and your family returns there, time and again, to ensure the survival of your genetics. All because your instincts- honed by this process of natural selection for millions of years before you- gave you the ability to use your magneto-sense and find your way back home.
Have I been clear enough with how this works, yet?
Quote:Are you nuts?
If you persist with this foolery after reading this post, you certainly are.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 11, 2013 at 10:14 am
Proof that Allah is dumb fuck designer number 1.
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 11, 2013 at 10:30 am
Muslim Scholar Wrote:Instincts itself is a miracle and cannot come by Evolution
I am eagerly anticipating your proof of this...
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RE: Intelligent Design, Proof V
June 12, 2013 at 7:45 am
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(June 11, 2013 at 8:09 am)Esquilax Wrote: They have the data too; they were at the point they return to when they were born. They have also every point they were during every second of their lives.
What triggered them to make that point so special????
Quote:Assume you're a little eel. The world is vast and wide, and full of predators that want to kill you and eat you. You need to breed, though... what chance will your babies have against all that?
It depends on the environment and number and power of predators, etc.
Quote:So you travel there, knowing that the predators in that place aren't enough to kill eel babies.
LOL
Did they read that in the news or what
Quote:Meanwhile those eels that spawn elsewhere have their babies eaten by predators, so their lineage dies out. But yours continues, because you remembered the safe place, and your family returns there, time and again, to ensure the survival of your genetics. All because your instincts- honed by this process of natural selection for millions of years before you- gave you the ability to use your magneto-sense and find your way back home.
Do you really believe this BS?
(June 11, 2013 at 10:14 am)popeyespappy Wrote: Proof that Allah is dumb fuck designer number 1. You are just imagining it is a proof
God created all species with a life span
Claiming that because God is perfect then he should create everything perfectly is totally wrong
Creatures are created for a purpose, and God created them well to suit that purpose, this include death, diseases, disabilities, etc.
Perfection doesn't apply to God as well in Islam
Because perfect means matching an ideal model
God in Islam is unique so a model is irrelevant.
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