(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: See mate,

I'm not your "mate," guy.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: the problem is you miss the point I and many others have been making. Not on this forum though.

Ah, yes, invisible friends who are not here to back you up. How convenient.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: Now you want me to help you out of your dilemma. I'm not going to do that!

What, the dilemma of trying to get someone to actually commit to intellectual debate? You AREN'T going to help? Well, that's not something to brag about.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: As for our Chinese history, you go do the digging for yourself.

How about no, since you're the one that pulled that little bullshit nugget right out of your ass. I am demanding evidence. Provide it or admit you're full of shit.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: Fact is that America was inhabited long before Europeans put foot there.

Relevance: None.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: China had the largest seafaring ships long before Columbus could dream about one and we colonized the Americas way before western history started recording facts.

Evidence to your claims, please, or it didn't happen. This is the same shit we say to religious people. Making a claim doesn't make it fact and if you know a bunch of people who take your claims at face value without questioning it they're as gullible as you are full of shit.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: It's evident you are still very young, full of zeal but not that educated.

Says the guy who rails against higher education.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: The Buddha taught about enlightenment which contains non-conceptual awareness. Did you study this at varsity too?

Non-sequitur.

So, we have baseless claims, ad hominems, non-sequiturs, and self-contradictions on top of retarded statements like "we're polluting space." Any other gems of intellectual might you want to bring to bear or am I just going to have to be content with NOT dying of howling laughter?

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(July 25, 2013 at 10:50 am)Red Celt Wrote: Colour me intrigued. In what possible way was that offensive?

If you really must know, send me a PM asking for clarification, and I'll tell you. It's a bit of a personal/family thing and it has some very, very deep roots in the way my life has turned out. Didn't mean to "sound" like I was ready to go for your throat [which I realize now that I did] but...yeah, it's THAT deeply rooted. Just for now, believe me when I say; I don't drink the koolaid and they'd have to suck my dick and pay me for it before I'd even look at it first.

(July 25, 2013 at 3:03 pm)Red Celt Wrote: Still, the WWW came from a Brit.

Yeah, I know. World Wide Web. That's just a system of interlinked hypertext documents. Yeah, that works well to assist us navigating around the internet. But it's not all that big of a deal in comparison.

(July 25, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Attie Wrote: I'm talking people arsehole not the size of your desert.

Yeah, 1.5 billion people without a voice in the way they're governed/ruled. Have fun with that.

(July 25, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Attie Wrote: Oh, and we enjoy electronic gadgets we build them here by the tons to be exported to the US.

I wouldn't say you guys "build" them as much as you put them together with spit, tape, and sand.

(July 25, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Attie Wrote: Hey! Your land sizes are wrong buddy! China is the third biggest landmass in the world.

If you include land-locked bodies of water [lakes] as being part of land-area, then no, the US is the third biggest, but seriously this is starting to get into a nationalist dick-measuring contest. The original point has long been made, now you're just trying to use a red herring to distract from that. Fact of the matter is your country once was a source of innovation, then they fucked it all up, became a shithole nationwide ghetto, and have only come to any modicum of power because Nixon got your dumb isolationist asses to open up to trade, thus ruining your communist stances and forcing your society to become a capitalistic one. One, in fact, based on the US's economic model. Get the fuck over yourself and your country; you guys can't even manage to make a fucking pair of headphones that last longer than three months. You have fuck-all to be proud of other than that you're the global center for mass-produced cheap shit and that you're a few thousand kilometers bigger. Well, wave hello to Russia for us in that last regard, by the way...and ask them how the Cold War turned out, too, while you're at it...

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(July 25, 2013 at 1:51 pm)Red Celt Wrote:

(July 25, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Rahul Wrote: How are you enjoying Electricity, the Combustion Engine, Refrigeration, Air Conditioning, Airplanes, Television, Phones, and that Computer you're on?

I like how you merged British inventions and American inventions in the same list. Is that an example of that "special relationship" I keep hearing about?

Notably (for Scots) John Logie Baird and Alexander Graham Bell provide credit to Scotland for the invention of the television and telephone.

Airplanes is an interesting one, too. The Wright Brothers didn't exactly invent flying. There were a lot of eccentrics, crackpots and pioneers around the world who were perfecting various types of flying machine. The Wright Brothers managed the longest recorded flight, winning them credit for the biggest success. It doesn't make it an invention, though.

I was curious about the claim for the combustion engine, too, and a look at Wikipedia confirms my suspicions. Which American in this list were you referring to?

And computers. I've always known Babbage as the "father of computing".

Honestly I myself tend to lump in the innovations of England, Germany, and the US together quite frequently, myself. It's not meant to dismiss the innovations of English or German innovators, quite the opposite; the US is a cosmopolitan nation [the fucking unmitigated bullshit by our government nothwithstanding], very much built by many hands. Personally I think the terminology should just be "western," since there's a lot of different nations in the western hemisphere that cooperate and build and innovate on a grand scale.

(July 25, 2013 at 5:31 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote:

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: See mate,

I'm not your "mate," guy.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: the problem is you miss the point I and many others have been making. Not on this forum though.

Ah, yes, invisible friends who are not here to back you up. How convenient.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: Now you want me to help you out of your dilemma. I'm not going to do that!

What, the dilemma of trying to get someone to actually commit to intellectual debate? You AREN'T going to help? Well, that's not something to brag about.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: As for our Chinese history, you go do the digging for yourself.

How about no, since you're the one that pulled that little bullshit nugget right out of your ass. I am demanding evidence. Provide it or admit you're full of shit.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: Fact is that America was inhabited long before Europeans put foot there.

Relevance: None.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: China had the largest seafaring ships long before Columbus could dream about one and we colonized the Americas way before western history started recording facts.

Evidence to your claims, please, or it didn't happen. This is the same shit we say to religious people. Making a claim doesn't make it fact and if you know a bunch of people who take your claims at face value without questioning it they're as gullible as you are full of shit.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: It's evident you are still very young, full of zeal but not that educated.

Says the guy who rails against higher education.

(July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am)Attie Wrote: The Buddha taught about enlightenment which contains non-conceptual awareness. Did you study this at varsity too?

Non-sequitur.

So, we have baseless claims, ad hominems, non-sequiturs, and self-contradictions on top of retarded statements like "we're polluting space." Any other gems of intellectual might you want to bring to bear or am I just going to have to be content with NOT dying of howling laughter?

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(July 25, 2013 at 10:50 am)Red Celt Wrote: Colour me intrigued. In what possible way was that offensive?

If you really must know, send me a PM asking for clarification, and I'll tell you. It's a bit of a personal/family thing and it has some very, very deep roots in the way my life has turned out. Didn't mean to "sound" like I was ready to go for your throat [which I realize now that I did] but...yeah, it's THAT deeply rooted. Just for now, believe me when I say; I don't drink the koolaid and they'd have to suck my dick and pay me for it before I'd even look at it first.

You really like to entertain yourself with all your philosophical bullshit, isn't it? Mate!

Once you've wiped the turd of your face, I'd consider feeding you less bullshit. Mate!

(July 25, 2013 at 5:49 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Honestly I myself tend to lump in the innovations of England, Germany, and the US together quite frequently, myself. It's not meant to dismiss the innovations of English or German innovators, quite the opposite; the US is a cosmopolitan nation [the fucking unmitigated bullshit by our government nothwithstanding], very much built by many hands. Personally I think the terminology should just be "western," since there's a lot of different nations in the western hemisphere that cooperate and build and innovate on a grand scale.

OK. See, now... what you did there, is you took the UK and you dropped Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland like so much trash set for a garbage bin.

England is not a synonym of the UK.

Quote:You really like to entertain yourself with all your philosophical bullshit, isn't it?

Ohh speak da engrish prease, rove me rong time?

Seriously, what the fuck did you even just say?

Quote:Once you've wiped the turd of your face, I'd consider feeding you less bullshit.

So you admit that everything you've said so far is bullshit? Well, as long as we're on the same page.

(July 26, 2013 at 3:14 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote:

Quote:You really like to entertain yourself with all your philosophical bullshit, isn't it?

Ohh speak da engrish prease, rove me rong time?

Seriously, what the fuck did you even just say?

Quote:Once you've wiped the turd of your face, I'd consider feeding you less bullshit.

So you admit that everything you've said so far is bullshit? Well, as long as we're on the same page.

What's this turd on about?

(July 26, 2013 at 3:09 am)Red Celt Wrote:

(July 25, 2013 at 5:49 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Honestly I myself tend to lump in the innovations of England, Germany, and the US together quite frequently, myself. It's not meant to dismiss the innovations of English or German innovators, quite the opposite; the US is a cosmopolitan nation [the fucking unmitigated bullshit by our government nothwithstanding], very much built by many hands. Personally I think the terminology should just be "western," since there's a lot of different nations in the western hemisphere that cooperate and build and innovate on a grand scale.

OK. See, now... what you did there, is you took the UK and you dropped Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland like so much trash set for a garbage bin.

England is not a synonym of the UK.

Well I also didn't mention Spain, France, Portugal, Italy... I just named off whatever first came to mind.

(July 26, 2013 at 3:38 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote:

(July 26, 2013 at 3:09 am)Red Celt Wrote: OK. See, now... what you did there, is you took the UK and you dropped Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland like so much trash set for a garbage bin.

England is not a synonym of the UK.

Well I also didn't mention Spain, France, Portugal, Italy... I just named off whatever first came to mind.

OK, well instead of referring to U.S. inventors, I'll just stick to California seeing as how that has the biggest population.