(July 30, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I look forward to seeing "Deist Paladin & A Theist's Political Nose Plugs" in stores very soon!

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(July 30, 2013 at 3:35 pm)whateverist Wrote: Politically I'm much more of a pragmatist than an idealist. So is Obama. I celebrate incremental progress because I understand the architecture of our government keeps the status quo entrenched. There is no easy road to progress short of a radical restructuring of our entire government. In the meantime, inching the ball forward while preventing those who serve the 1% from pushing us further into serfdom seems worth doing to me.

Which would be great except for the fact that for each step of progress in ares like gay rights there has been equal, if not more, regress in areas like individual liberty, due process and general authoritarianism.

I just thought I would point out that the results of the poll currently show a rather nice bell curve, slightly more slumped towards the disapprove end, but not by much.

(July 30, 2013 at 4:21 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I just thought I would point out that the results of the poll currently show a rather nice bell curve, slightly more slumped towards the disapprove end, but not by much.

I noticed that too. Very interesting... my perception before this poll was that most of us agree on specific issues, such as gay rights, abortion, and the drug war, to name a few. I wonder if I was off on that idea.

My views are similar to Creed's.

I abstained in 2008, and voted for Obama in 2012, not because I think he's the best choice, but because he was the least offensive of the those who had any chance of winning.

"Hope and Change" in 2008 was campaign bullshit, eaten up by disillusioned voters.

I do appreciate the few things that he's accomplished, but overall, I'm left with the undeniable fact that his administration has continued a shitload of Bush policies, and we're still on the steady march towards an authoritarian police state. By some measures, we're already there.

I disapprove of Obama less than his predecessor.

(July 30, 2013 at 4:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(July 30, 2013 at 3:35 pm)whateverist Wrote: Politically I'm much more of a pragmatist than an idealist. So is Obama. I celebrate incremental progress because I understand the architecture of our government keeps the status quo entrenched. There is no easy road to progress short of a radical restructuring of our entire government. In the meantime, inching the ball forward while preventing those who serve the 1% from pushing us further into serfdom seems worth doing to me.

Which would be great except for the fact that for each step of progress in ares like gay rights there has been equal, if not more, regress in areas like individual liberty, due process and general authoritarianism.

And that would be a valid criticism were it not for the fact that we'd likely be even worse off with a president lacking the support of either major party and completely screwed with another iteration of Bush.

(July 30, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(July 30, 2013 at 3:19 pm)A Theist Wrote: Excuse me while I pick myself up off the floor. Yup, seems we're in agreement here DP. Romney certainly wasn't my candidate of choice. But, like you did with Obama, I held my nose and voted for Romney anyway. Looks like we're all getting tired of having the same one of two choices to pick from.

I look forward to seeing "Deist Paladin & A Theist's Political Nose Plugs" in stores very soon!

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(July 30, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(July 30, 2013 at 3:19 pm)A Theist Wrote: Excuse me while I pick myself up off the floor. Yup, seems we're in agreement here DP. Romney certainly wasn't my candidate of choice. But, like you did with Obama, I held my nose and voted for Romney anyway. Looks like we're all getting tired of having the same one of two choices to pick from.

I look forward to seeing "Deist Paladin & A Theist's Political Nose Plugs" in stores very soon!

Awww I would buy that SHIT IN TWO SECONDS!!

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(July 30, 2013 at 5:06 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(July 30, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I look forward to seeing "Deist Paladin & A Theist's Political Nose Plugs" in stores very soon!

One for the politically Right nostril and one for the politically Left nostril. But if you act now you can get this exclusive TV offer! Buy one pair of "A T's and DP's Political Nose Plugs" for the low low price of $9.99 and get a second pair for a friend absolutely free! And as an extra added bonus we'll send you our exclusive "A T's & DP's Politically Correct Ear Plugs"! But act now, supplies are limited!

Seriously if there's only one thing that can get opposite sides of the political spectrum to come together in agreement it's the political machinations of our so-called "representatives."

obama is the best president america has ever had if you think the the random accustions against him are a problem just know every president before him has supported the same measures

(July 30, 2013 at 8:37 pm)cratehorus Wrote: obama is the best president america has ever had if you think the the random accustions against him are a problem just know every president before him has supported the same measures

WRONG. That honor belongs to men like Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Kennedy. Obama is at best a mid-ranking president and at worst destined to be remembered as a man of hollow promises, feeble actions, and one of the most determined expansionists of government power into citizens' private lives.