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What Is The Point Of Prayer?
RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 19, 2013 at 11:23 am)discipulus Wrote: Assuming atheism for a moment....I pose a question:

Does the atheist determine what is meaningful for the Christian and vice versa. ..

Or...

Does each individual determine what is meaningful to them?

You just going to repeat this in a bunch of threads, or what?

If it's burning your biscuits to get a response, start a dedicated thread.
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What the fuck double post...
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 19, 2013 at 12:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Shouldn't that be "does the individual imagine what is meaningful to them?

We could use that....yes....
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 19, 2013 at 11:23 am)discipulus Wrote: Assuming atheism for a moment....I pose a question:

Does the atheist determine what is meaningful for the Christian and vice versa. ..

Or...

Does each individual determine what is meaningful to them?

I'm not understanding this question.

I mean, I get what you're asking, but I don't get the point of the question. To me, it's got as much meaning as asking "assuming Islam, does the peanut butter go on top of the sandwich, or the jelly?"
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 19, 2013 at 11:23 am)discipulus Wrote: Assuming atheism for a moment....I pose a question:

Does the atheist determine what is meaningful for the Christian and vice versa. ..

Or...

Does each individual determine what is meaningful to them?

Not sure why you should need to assume atheism to pose or answer this question.

Of course is it up to each individual to find what is meaningful to himself. No one else can determine that for us because there is no objective measure by which an outsider can verify the fit.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 11, 2013 at 7:03 pm)Drich Wrote: It has already been said, but I will sum it up anyway.

Prayer is the medium in which we ask God to make His will for our life, our own will. It is us asking God to change our wants to what He wants for us. In short it is the free giving of our will and the adoption of "His will be done, on earth (in the prayer's life) as it is in Heaven."

This is alarmingly close to the clinical definition of split personallity disorder.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
I think Drippy is off his meds, again.
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RE: What Is The Point Of Prayer?
(August 19, 2013 at 7:55 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 19, 2013 at 11:23 am)discipulus Wrote: Assuming atheism for a moment....I pose a question:

Does the atheist determine what is meaningful for the Christian and vice versa. ..

Or...

Does each individual determine what is meaningful to them?

I'm not understanding this question.

I mean, I get what you're asking, but I don't get the point of the question. To me, it's got as much meaning as asking "assuming Islam, does the peanut butter go on top of the sandwich, or the jelly?"

Jelly. But assuming Hinduism is true, peanut butter.
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Four pages of this nonsense and we still come down to this.

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To be fair, the fellow in that image was at his most helpful when he was doing nothing.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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