(August 12, 2013 at 12:10 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: The best method here to employ a positive image towards atheism/agnostism/deism, humanism, or secularism, is to be good people. However, this is not enough as it the ideology that the philosophical structure typically implies holds this back. The way we should go about this is change the image. While there are plenty of “charities” from atheists or non-religious folk. The collective group needs to walk a higher “moral” road, the religious folk as of right now are rather greedy, self-serving, corporate religions. To combat this in my opinion is as follows:

1. We need to create a very visible base that religion is not needed to be “moral”.
2. To establish step one, use reason, logic, and rationality to establish a moral code.
3. Combat the corruption, greed, and social injustice since the religions are not doing it.
4. Help out the poor, disadvantaged, and hurting.
5. Use science to cure people. (irony huh.)
6. Combat psychological illnesses and mental issues and not alienate them.
7. Heal psychological and emotional issues that religions either create or neglect.
8. As difficult as it is, we need to take some pointers from Jesus. Be calm, timid, understanding and patient with people as we debate them.
9. Push for scientific advancement, social progression, and humanism over pure profit, greed and power.
10. Finally become the “Light and Salt of the Earth” that religion is not.

Wow, just wow. Simply amazing ideas. That is what I was looking for. Thanks. We can do it if we work together. I don't know why we have to be divided, when we have common interests. I believe we can make a change by being an example to our societies and communities all over the globe. Cheers bladevalant546. Now, we have to go on how we can do these things effectively and wonderfully execute our plans. I agree with supporting A+ instead of starting another one. So how would we go on doing that? Does athiest + have a site? Communities? How can we proceed?

(August 14, 2013 at 8:43 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Us atheists are like vampires. The longer you are one, the stronger and more powerful you become.

Eventualy you can fly. I can already sort of hover. That should be our selling point if we're to have one. Hell, some people already believe in a big old guy in the sky who can see everything and judge them for stuff they don't even know they've done yet. Convincing them of this shoul be simple.

Fidel, wow. I am a newbie at this, and your words allure me a lot. The hell, that's an awesome selling point. I buy it completely.

(August 14, 2013 at 9:47 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(August 11, 2013 at 5:06 am)shadowninjax Wrote: Religious folks have all the support they need. They have community, church members, mosque etc where they gather and make plans to convert other unsuspecting victims.

We athiests, are quiet and spread all over the world.

Don't you see? That's our greatest strength; that's why theists fear us! Unlike them, we atheists tend not to accrete into focussed groups where our position can be seen. In other words, precisely because we are a disparate inhomogeneous force spread so widely, they can never be certain where the next attack will be coming from! Nothing scarier than an invisible enemy!

*****While I agree that our invisibility is a plus factor, we would do a lot more, if we can be visible. Unlike the invisible gods who sit and watch.

(August 11, 2013 at 5:06 am)shadowninjax Wrote: What say my fellow brethrens? How shall we proceed in a better and effective way?

Unless we include a decent share of sistren in all this, I'm not gonna play.


*****Hold on, we yet have to discuss about how we can include the nuns and sisterns with this. Let's keep the hopes high! :p

(August 14, 2013 at 12:33 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Here's my nomination for a common enemy:

Hats off to you. Hahaha If the atheists all over the world go against him, he would have no chance. Poor bieber!

(August 22, 2013 at 8:40 am)shadowninjax Wrote: I agree with supporting A+ instead of starting another one. So how would we go on doing that? Does athiest + have a site? Communities? How can we proceed?

You can find their official forum here.

I have to warn you though, A+ is a bigoted and narrowminded cult, who censors anyone who doesn't agree with their dogma 100%. They are fundamentalist fanatics and if you are unfortunate enough to carry a y-chromosome, be prepared to walk on eggshells. You are inherently evil for having a penis (unless you are a transwoman).

But don't take my word for it. Even though I haven't met an A-plusser that I like, it doesn't mean that they all must be rotten. Go check out for yourself. Who knows, maybe it's just the crowd for you and you'll find the additional meaning to you being atheist from them. Good luck!

(August 22, 2013 at 9:39 am)Kayenneh Wrote:

(August 22, 2013 at 8:40 am)shadowninjax Wrote: I agree with supporting A+ instead of starting another one. So how would we go on doing that? Does athiest + have a site? Communities? How can we proceed?

You can find their official forum here.

I have to warn you though, A+ is a bigoted and narrowminded cult, who censors anyone who doesn't agree with their dogma 100%. They are fundamentalist fanatics and if you are unfortunate enough to carry a y-chromosome, be prepared to walk on eggshells. You are inherently evil for having a penis (unless you are a transwoman).

But don't take my word for it. Even though I haven't met an A-plusser that I like, it doesn't mean that they all must be rotten. Go check out for yourself. Who knows, maybe it's just the crowd for you and you'll find the additional meaning to you being atheist from them. Good luck!

Sounds like they traded the ignorant constructs of fanatic religion for fanatic denial of religion...not atheism.



Guess they just have not met a penis that does them right yet...I feel bad for them.

(August 22, 2013 at 9:39 am)Kayenneh Wrote: I have to warn you though, A+ is a bigoted and narrowminded cult.

Then the title humanist under their site name is rather ironic.

Atheism+ is cringe-worthy. They can censor whoever they want on their site as much as I disagree with it, my main problem with them is how they wish to make Atheism into something more than it really is.

(August 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)Psykhronic Wrote: They can censor whoever they want on their site as much as I disagree with it

Yeah, that was why I left them be for temporarily banning me after ten posts. (And I swear, I read through their rules and guidelines twice! Silly me for thinking that common sense and courtesy would be enough..)

Seriously, they banned YOU Kay? God damn. Fuck em

(August 22, 2013 at 10:52 am)Psykhronic Wrote: Seriously, they banned YOU Kay? God damn. Fuck em

Yup. They sure did

More like....Atheism MINUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_eK2fp2haQ

(August 22, 2013 at 10:46 am)Kayenneh Wrote:

(August 22, 2013 at 10:30 am)Psykhronic Wrote: They can censor whoever they want on their site as much as I disagree with it

Yeah, that was why I left them be for temporarily banning me after ten posts. (And I swear, I read through their rules and guidelines twice! Silly me for thinking that common sense and courtesy would be enough..)

But... but... I thought you were a girl...
Now, I'm confused!