Nidal Malik Hasan has been found guilty (big surprise) and sentenced to death.

I only wish they still did the whole "firing squad" thing. But who knows, maybe this shit-stain will end up feeling intense agony in his last few moments as the poison courses through his system. Some small measure against what he did.

Quote:On August 23, 2013, Hasan was declared guilty on all charges, and thus became eligible for the death penalty, with those deliberations to begin August 26, 2013. By August 27, the thirteen-member jury panel heard testimony from 24 victims and family members of those wounded and killed during the 2009 Fort Hood shootings. Throughout the proceedings, Hasan declined to speak in his own defense or question any of the witnesses. He also did not provide any material explaining his decision not to mount a defense throughout the trial and sentencing phases. At the end, Hasan, acting as his own attorney, told the jury panel that the defense had rested its case. Judge Tara Osborn accepted Hasan's decision. In his final statement, lead prosecutor Colonel Mike Mulligan said:

[Hassan] can never be a martyr because he has nothing to give... Do not be misled; do not be confused; do not be fooled. He is not giving his life. We are taking his life. This is not his gift to God, it's his debt to society. He will not now and will not ever be a martyr.

bam bam bam......

anotherone bites the dust!

No, the lethal injection puts them to sleep first before killing them, so no chance of agony. I wish they still did the firing squad, too, so he could die the same way his victims died.

I actualy oppose the death penalty and certainly will not change my opinion because a certain crime is more vicious than a other one.

That just proves the point that justice should not be directed through emotions and a need for revenge.

I only oppose the death penalty in instances where there is any kind of likelihood of error, any shred of doubt.

Having 13 dead bodies and a base full of people who saw it all happen and tons of witnesses and security footage and everything else that was involved with this pretty much gives 100% certainty, and with that (and only that; 99.99999~% is not enough) will I agree with the death penalty for such crimes.

He isn't worth the resources to keep him alive, anyways. It's not like prison would rehabilitate him, either.

(August 30, 2013 at 11:51 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: I only oppose the death penalty in instances where there is any kind of likelihood of error, any shred of doubt.

A justice system is a representative body of the state, the state is a representative body of you, essentialy it is you who is killing that person.

The death penalty is also a practice not being used by a single other civilised and democratic society other than the US and Japan, it is today merely in common use amongst dictatorships and countries stuck in a more barbaric age.

The death penalty is also not a deterent, since it has shown to not lower crime rates.

Also, it is a proven fact, that the cost of the court procedures, execution staff, execution divice, retrials and other judiciary practices which would be required for the entire process to be fair and fitting to the standerds of a modern democracy, make the cost of the death penalty more than the cost of a life in prison sentence. The death penalty is only cheaper than life in prison, in countries where there is no such thing as a fair and democratic judiciary. BUT - this raises the question: Do you believe a human life can be valued in currency?

Quote:Having 13 dead bodies and a base full of people who saw it all happen and tons of witnesses and security footage and everything else that was involved with this pretty much gives 100% certainty, and with that (and only that; 99.99999~% is not enough) will I agree with the death penalty for such crimes.

Even despite the points listed above?

Quote:He isn't worth the resources to keep him alive, anyways. It's not like prison would rehabilitate him, either.

You are making the mistake of asuming that the prime function is "rehabilitation". Well certainly not in the US, which has a prison sstem that is better in creating criminals and delivering convicts to more ruthless and brutal abuse within prison walls.
A justice systems prime function is to provide safety for the inocent, and not the resocialisation - that is probably only the secondary function.

There are crimes that are so gruesome, so 'evil' that will destroy our judgement. It is my opinion that such people are to live, if only for the slight chance that they realize what they did and how pointless it was.

I oppose the death penalty only because, if I were a criminal, I'd rather die than spend life in prison. Which means the better punishment would be to make them to spend life in prison.

Death is a way around facing consequence.

The military appeals process is so long that he'll probably die of old age.