The God in which American idiots trust and the Islamic God that hates him.


Round and around we go!

Seems like there wont be any kind of military intervention. If the Syrian chemical weapons arsenal is really put under UN inspection and destroyed that would make an intervention obsolete.

By accepting this proposolal by Russia, Assad is acknowleging that they were used by his side. I read in papers today that the weapons were most likely used by some of Assads officers without Assads aproval. Which means that he is more and more losing his grip to power.

It's astonishing how many Americans are convinced we're the only ones that have a military capable of seriously fucking a country up. Russia could park a ballistic missile Submarine off the coast of Florida, equipped with nuclear warheads, aimed at US military and government strong points, and we wouldn't know they were there until the missiles broke surface. It's 2013. Weapons and war have changed a lot since the last World War.

(September 11, 2013 at 7:44 pm)festive1 Wrote: Speaking as an American: I think we needed those dings. It's like a time-out, we need to go sit in the corner and seriously consider what we are doing.

Those dings won't help us do that. All it will do it to whip an even worse group of wannabe thugs into a jingoistic frenzy and motivate them to try harder to retake the WhiteHouse.

(September 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: It's astonishing how many Americans are convinced we're the only ones that have a military capable of seriously fucking a country up. Russia could park a ballistic missile Submarine off the coast of Florida, equipped with nuclear warheads, aimed at US military and government strong points, and we wouldn't know they were there until the missiles broke surface. It's 2013. Weapons and war have changed a lot since the last World War.

Maybe because most Americans dont care about what goes on in other countries?
Loads and loads of countries conducted military interventions in foreign countrie in the past 60 years.
China interveined militarily in each of it`s neighbouring countries between 1950 and 1980. Cuba in Angola, South Africa in Angola and on and on and on
Only those countries that dont have the capacities or were seriously bitchslapped in their past did not conduct any such thing.

(September 11, 2013 at 7:55 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: China interveined militarily in each of it`s neighbouring countries between 1950 and 1980.

Uh, no. Of all countries in the world China has the most land neigbhors, 16 in total. Yet it only intervened militarily in 3 of them (5 if you count tibet and Taiwan as separate countries, in which case china had 18 neighbors) a total of 5 time (9 times if you count tibet and Taiwan) between 1950 and 1980.

United States border only 2 countries, yet in the same period, United States intervened militarily in 36 different countries a total of 48 times, amounting to more than 1 different foreign military interventions a year.

I think as far as peace time military intervention in recognized modern foreign nation states go, United States remain the all time champion in both total number of countries intervened in and annual rate of intervention.

(September 11, 2013 at 8:12 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(September 11, 2013 at 7:55 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: China interveined militarily in each of it`s neighbouring countries between 1950 and 1980.

Uh, no. Of all countries in the world China has the most land neigbhors, 16 in total. It only intervened militarily in 3 (4 if you count tibet as a separate country) of them between 1950 and 1980.

In the same period, United States intervened militarily in 36 countries. In some countries the US intervened 3 times.

North Korea, Vietnam, Tibet, Russia, India, Cambodia.

thats 6.

But still, I stand corrected.

(September 11, 2013 at 8:20 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: North Korea, Vietnam, Tibet, Russia, India, Cambodia.
thats 6.

But still, I stand corrected.

1. It would have been quite a wonder for the ages if the then still backwards "people's war" China were to be able to intervene militarily in the then still nearly almighty land power of the USSR. What transpired was a border dispute resulting in a border skirmesh, in which the Soviet Union attacked the disputed territory first and easily held it.

2. China aided the cambodia with arms and supplies during Vietnam war, Cambodian civil war, and Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. But AFAIK there were no intrusion nor threat of intrusion of Chinese forces into Cambodia, so there was no intervention. There was an actual invasion of China into Vietnam in the same period in response to vietnamese invasion of Cambodia, but we've counted that already.

(September 11, 2013 at 8:30 pm)Chuck Wrote: 1. It would have been quite a wonder for the ages if the then still backwards "people's war" China were to be able to intervene militarily in the then still nearly almighty superpower USSR. What transpired was a border dispute resulting in a border skirmesh, in which the Soviet Union attacked the disputed territory first and easily held it.

I thought China attacked first.

Quote:2. China aided the cambodia with arms and supplies during Vietnam war, Cambodian civil war, and Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. But AFAIK there were no intrusion nor threat of intrusion of Chinese forces into Cambodia, so there was no intervention. There was an actual invasion of China into Vietnam in the same period in response to vietnamese invasion of Cambodia, but we've counted that already.

I know that the Chinese invaded Vietnam after Vietnam invaded Cambodia but in my oppinion the aid given to the Khmer Rouge is a military intervention. Military intervention does not simply mean an invasion or a boming. Giving arms to a side in a war that seeks to achieve goals in line with yours is also a form of military intervention.

(September 10, 2013 at 9:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

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Thank you for this photo!