(September 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote: Edit - thanks for that link, I'll have to save that one for when anyone wants to try to argue that religion does no harm.

Ah, but you see, no true christian would do anything harmful!

Gotta hand it to the guys, they might not have a shred of intellectual honesty anywhere else, but they sure know how to cover their asses in ways they're totally satisfied with believing.

(September 13, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote: "...we need to live in relation to god."

Okay, I reject that idea as do many other people. I don't think it's easier to live life with a deity involved. Rather, I believe it to be dishonest and an easy cop out when the shit hits the fan.

I really don't agree with your last statement either. Ever read about faith healing? I suppose you have an explanation for that.

I did not say anything about faith healing, do I believe it happens, yes, sometimes. Do I believe that people should ever reject physicians, never.

GC

(September 13, 2013 at 2:28 pm)catfish Wrote: You're an idiot then. (my justifiable belief).
Everything after "No" is fluff...

Gee! I didn't realize your mother was off limits.

Then again being called an idiot by card carrying true believer is almost a bragging point. So thanks.

(September 12, 2013 at 9:06 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I feel...happy. Thank you for at least SOMETHING, catfish.

What are you talking about? That "something" is the same thing you got here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-20756-po...#pid504249
and here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-20756-po...#pid504261
and here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-20756-po...#pid504255

and they're all just more elaborate versions of here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-20756-po...#pid504230

(September 12, 2013 at 9:06 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I'm not certain if the Bible itself claims to be unerring as a whole, but I feel that you would agree with me that many Christians do make the claim that their Holy Book is unerring.

Why do you need to know my views? Are you prejudiced against Christians like missluckie is?

(September 12, 2013 at 9:06 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I have a hunch that they do this based on the idea that something inspired by a perfect being cannot be wrong. Where do you stand on this?

Again with questions regarding my personal views, this time regarding people. What relevance do my views of what people believe about things written over 1900 years ago have to do with what is actually written there? I care not why you would commit a logical fallacy or factual error, I only care (and will point out) that your committed one.

(I have a hunch you believe that only because someone told you it. )

(September 12, 2013 at 9:06 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (And we can let missluckie find some biblical evidence for the claim that it says it's unerring, but I doubt after all that's transpired in this thread that she'll want to address your concern.)

Oh, do you mean that it would be too embarassing for her? I can understand that sentiment. She created a thread dangerously close to a bannable offence. She strawmanned a Chritian's viewpoint and said that such viewpoint was akin to being mentally ill. Then she admitted to finding them justified in following a fucked-up viewpoint based on a book like she was espousing (but not justified in believing in God) which I think makes her just as "mentally ill" as those she wishes to ridicule. She strawmanned my position by accusing me of saying she was going to hell when she knew months ago that I don't believe in hell. She also strawmanned my positition by focusing on aeonian (incorrectly I might add). You did basically the same thing so I am quite surprised you still responded and admitted that you are uncertain concerning that which I challenged.
Since you're a good sport and your fluffy pillows, er... I mean iron knuckles tickled, I figure I'll give you something:
I'm a Christian and proud of it. I also believe in a God who exists beyond this universe.

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(September 12, 2013 at 12:05 am)missluckie26 Wrote:

catfish Wrote:Like I've said before, bare assertions abound 'round these here parts...

As do asswipes who aren't worth the breath. You are aware that just cuz you claim victory doesn't mean you won right? Yeah. If that's how you judge your success (by wasting peoples' time and effort then pissing them off to the point they won't reply to you), then whooo-boy I bet you're conceited as fuck. It's dishonest, really.

Shoo fly

Sigh... I can't claim victory unless you admit your error, otherwise it's just unfinished business until you make the same error and I ask for evidence again.
If you think verifying your claims is waste of time then I can understand how we came into this little "discussion" that has your panties in such a bunch. Do you form your own opinions or do you rent them from evilbible?
What's dishonest is making stuff up and claiming it's true.

(September 13, 2013 at 11:56 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: He can't take responsibility for his actions. It's always our fault. We MUST be ganging up on him if we are all saying the same things to him. We're all part of a gang created solely to put GC in his place. It's a fucking conspiracy, man.

Oh, fuck, you let the secret out. Now we have to shun you or disfellowship you, or something.

(September 14, 2013 at 1:05 am)Godschild Wrote: It's like tasting a new food for the first time and finding out it's as good as everyone said it was and one would never know if they rejected it without tasting. I also know that there will be those who find it distasteful, but could that be a mental picture that was drawn before the tasting, could it be a self imposed idea?

You have no idea how easy it is to picture you at a table, sawing at an empty plate with a knife, bringing an empty fork to your mouth and putting nothing in it, then making obnoxious sounds of chewing and swallowing, followed by a loud proclamation of how tasty the food is. It's so you.

Oh God, please, just make them shut up.

(September 14, 2013 at 12:39 pm)apophenia Wrote:


Oh God, please, just make them shut up.

There is definitely something disturbing about it, but I'm wondering where it will ultimately lead.