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Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
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Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Ezekiel 26

In the eleventh month of the twelfth[a] year, on the first day of the month, the word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, because Tyre has said of Jerusalem, ‘Aha! The gate to the nations is broken, and its doors have swung open to me; now that she lies in ruins I will prosper,’ 3 therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Tyre, and I will bring many nations against you, like the sea casting up its waves. 4 They will destroy the walls of Tyre and pull down her towers; I will scrape away her rubble and make her a bare rock. 5 Out in the sea she will become a place to spread fishnets, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord. She will become plunder for the nations, 6 and her settlements on the mainland will be ravaged by the sword. Then they will know that I am the Lord.

7 “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar[b] king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army. 8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you. 9 He will direct the blows of his battering rams against your walls and demolish your towers with his weapons. 10 His horses will be so many that they will cover you with dust. Your walls will tremble at the noise of the warhorses, wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through. 11 The hooves of his horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. 12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea. 13 I will put an end to your noisy songs, and the music of your harps will be heard no more. 14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

15 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says to Tyre: Will not the coastlands tremble at the sound of your fall, when the wounded groan and the slaughter takes place in you? 16 Then all the princes of the coast will step down from their thrones and lay aside their robes and take off their embroidered garments. Clothed with terror, they will sit on the ground, trembling every moment, appalled at you. 17 Then they will take up a lament concerning you and say to you:

“‘How you are destroyed, city of renown,
peopled by men of the sea!
You were a power on the seas,
you and your citizens;
you put your terror
on all who lived there.
18 Now the coastlands tremble
on the day of your fall;
the islands in the sea
are terrified at your collapse.’

19 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I make you a desolate city, like cities no longer inhabited, and when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you, 20 then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place[c] in the land of the living. 21 I will bring you to a horrible end and you will be no more. You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign Lord.”

Now god clearly says that the city will be destroyed by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar but yet tyre is still here and is flourishing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon

And in fact here is what actually happened when tyre was attacked by Nebuchadnezzar

Named Sur today ("rock"), Tyre was home of a massive fortress that was attacked by every invader who came long - often without success. In 585 BCE, just two years after besieging and destroying Jerusalem, King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon attacked Tyre to capture its trading resources. His siege would last thirteen years and would prove unsuccessful - although it was probably around this time that residents of Tyre began to abandon the mainland part of the city in favor of the island city where the walls were said to be 150 feet high. Some believe that Nebuchadnezzar was primarily interested in containing rather than destroying Tyre, but what it clear is that Tyre came through largely uncathed and with significant autonomy - a much better fate than what Jerusalem experienced.
Quoted from
http://atheism.about.com/od/bibleplacesc...n-Tyre.htm

Now bear in mind ezekiel 26 is in the context of nebuchadnezzar continuing his conquests on the Mediterranean and was written about 9 years into the 13 year seige.

So did god lie or make a mistake?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Quote:Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?

Its still there AT THE MOMENT.

Theists have a lot of patience. Remember they are still waiting for their god boy to come back after doing the equivalent of popping down the shops for some cigarettes almost 2000 years ago.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
They also have a lot of stupidity. "God" backed the wrong horse. You'd think a "god" could do better.



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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Min and someone else did this to death with no agreements, the old city is gone, and a new one is built this was the whole argument. Just like Hiroshima was gone and now is rebuilt. The old one is forever gone and now there's a new one. All I got to say.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 15, 2013 at 11:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Min and someone else did this to death with no agreements, the old city is gone, and a new one is built this was the whole argument. Just like Hiroshima was gone and now is rebuilt. The old one is forever gone and now there's a new one. All I got to say.

Smile GC

The Wholly Babble Wrote:Ez 26:14 ...thou shalt be built no more...
Ez 26:19 ... the deep upon thee, and great waters shall cover thee...
Ez 26:20-21 ... thou shalt be no more: though thou be sought for, yet shalt thou never be found again, saith the Lord GOD.

You lose.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 15, 2013 at 11:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Min and someone else did this to death with no agreements, the old city is gone, and a new one is built this was the whole argument. Just like Hiroshima was gone and now is rebuilt. The old one is forever gone and now there's a new one. All I got to say.

Smile GC

Jesus Christ, did you read my post? what deist paladin just posted is right there. BTW it's southern not southren.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Quote:Min and someone else did this to death with no agreements, the old city is gone, and a new one is built this was the whole argument.

Bullshit, G-C. You are such a fucking phony. You made that assertion and it is not what your fucking god said it is what you said...(you, unlike your god, have the advantage of existing but neither one of you knows your ass from your elbow.)

Quote:Ez 26:20-21 ... thou shalt be no more: though thou be sought for, yet shalt thou never be found again, saith the Lord GOD.

Hey, even fucking jesus is supposed to have gone there....of course, he didn't.

Quote:31 Then Jesus left the vicinity of Tyre and went through Sidon, down to the Sea of Galilee and into the region of the Decapolis

Mark 7

BTW, this is a pretty stupid way to route a trip but maybe he liked to walk?
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Of course that was before he had trouble with his nails.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#9
RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
Incidentally, even a rudimentary reading comprehension ought to show that there was never any mention of a spare Tyre in that damn book. Trying to pretend that the total lack of destruction is proof of a fulfilled prophecy of the exact opposite is laughably desperate.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
(September 15, 2013 at 11:57 pm)Stimbo Wrote: ...spare Tyre...

ROFLOL
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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