(September 16, 2013 at 3:06 pm)old man Wrote: I have witnessed and all that logic and reason tell me, and the reasons I see for valuing the God revealed to me through the Jesus of the New Testament above all others are infinitely better than the reasons I see for not doing so.

A theistic belief is the veritable lack of logic and reason in relation to the belief. Theists tend to be so blinded by their overwhelming need for god to be real that they are actually blind to the real logic and reason when faced with it. Theistic belief is akin to a horse with blinders or one having tunnel vision. All the theist will see is god, and he will defend that god no matter how illogical it is to do so, because all the truth and logic and reason coming in at the theist from all sides has been programmed into his mind from a young age to be considered untruth. Remove the blinders, remove the rose colored glasses, and you will finally see that the truth you cling to so adamantly has been nothing more than a farce.

(September 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm)old man Wrote: In my days of not knowing the truth I sought to know the truth as I explained earlier. https://atheistforums.org/thread-20242.html ...and whilst I find the concepts of evolution and natural repetition fascinating, I can't help being reminded that life on earth has clear hall marks of intelligent design.

"natural repetition"? Huh?

If you think organisms show "clear hall marks of intelligent design", then you did not understand the evidence for evolution, fascinating though you may have found it.

(September 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm)old man Wrote: I can't help being reminded that life on earth has clear hall marks of intelligent design.

No god is necessary. I look at the beautiful world and I see it as a natural cause first placed into motion by the Big Bang and then later cultivated by the process of evolution. Those who illogically jump to the god explanation are merely filling in the gaps of knowledge due to intellectual laziness. A belief in a deity can be most comfortable, but the untruth regarding the belief is an intellectual trap.

(September 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm)old man Wrote: Whilst this is true of many churches, there is still a strong and faithful Christian community across the world that can see very clearly how deceiving the human race is and where it is heading.

The deceit comes straight from religion itself.

(September 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm)old man Wrote: How can we trust man's ability to reason correctly when he can't even stop destroying himself.

How can we trust the church's ability to reason correctly when it cannot even stop destroying itself?

(September 15, 2013 at 2:36 am)old man Wrote: Time will tell, see you soon

No, you've failed to coherently represent and defend your position. Whatever the future holds, you have still failed to defend your position.

Quote: I can't help being reminded that life on earth has clear hall marks of intelligent design.

What a fucking idiot you are.

If life on Earth was intelligently designed, you certainly wouldn't be able to tell from the nutbags that believe it.

We're so intelligently designed that we don't have birth defects or spontaneous abortions. Plus, because our bodies are so intelligently designed, we don't absorb more calories than we need and get fat. We never get old either, because we don't have a genetic kill switch in our DNA code.

Pah-Leeeze!

Ah, but you see that all happened after "The Fall™", when our ancestors decided they'd rather find out for themselves what 'Good' and 'Evil' were rather than have it imposed on them by an unstable authority figure.

(September 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm)old man Wrote: In my days of not knowing the truth I sought to know the truth as I explained earlier. https://atheistforums.org/thread-20242.html ...and whilst I find the concepts of evolution and natural repetition fascinating, I can't help being reminded that life on earth has clear hall marks of intelligent design.

(September 17, 2013 at 11:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What a fucking idiot you are.

At last I see some sense in your abusive rantings.

I must be mad staying here.

You're actually just abusing yourself for not listening to reason. You honestly believe that a mythology is true. His words are mocking your childishness, and if you're offended, then Min definitely got through to you in some way.