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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 5, 2013 at 12:53 pm
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(October 3, 2013 at 4:18 am)Godschild Wrote: There are fossilized trees standing vertically through tens of thousands of years of sedimentary layers, how is that possible, it ain't.
 GC
No, it isn't impossible.
To demonstrate - Clear Lake in Oregon, the headwaters of the McKenzie river. There are trees in this lake that are preserved, many still standing upright, despite being submerged under water for many thousands of years.
I happen to have photographs of those preserved trees that I personally took while scuba diving in that lake three or four years ago.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 8, 2013 at 12:34 am
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(October 5, 2013 at 12:53 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (October 3, 2013 at 4:18 am)Godschild Wrote: There are fossilized trees standing vertically through tens of thousands of years of sedimentary layers, how is that possible, it ain't.
GC
No, it isn't impossible.
To demonstrate - Clear Lake in Oregon, the headwaters of the McKenzie river. There are trees in this lake that are preserved, many still standing upright, despite being submerged under water for many thousands of years.
I happen to have photographs of those preserved trees that I personally took while scuba diving in that lake three or four years ago.
Correct you are about those trees, why, because like any wood that is submerged it doesn't completely rot. The trees I'm speaking of were partly covered by sediment, then over hundreds to thousands of years were again partly covered, that is if you believe science. Exposed to air they would have rotted away before they could have been completely covered.
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(October 4, 2013 at 5:59 pm)Brakeman Wrote: GC,
So by what tests would creation be falsifiable in your opinion?
I could ask the same about the big bang. Absolute truth is not falsifiable.
GC
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 8, 2013 at 12:43 am
(October 8, 2013 at 12:34 am)Godschild Wrote: Correct you are about those trees, why, because like any wood that is submerged it doesn't completely rot. The trees I'm speaking of were partly covered by sediment, then over hundreds to thousands of years were again partly covered, that is if you believe science. Exposed to air they would have rotted away before they could have been completely covered.
GC
Right, and back on page two I let you know that your accusations had been debunked over a hundred years ago, so it's interesting that you're persisting with them rather than just admitting that you were wrong.
Quote:I could ask the same about the big bang. Absolute truth is not falsifiable.
GC
And how do you intend to do more than loudly assert that you're in possession of absolute truth?
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 8, 2013 at 8:14 am
Ever notice how many theistic arguments come down to "you can't prove it isn't"? I think they use the term "faith" when they mean "coulda."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 8, 2013 at 10:26 am
(October 4, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: (October 4, 2013 at 12:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Any book that treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light, any book that pops adult men suddenly out of dirt, and pops an adult woman out of a man's rib, can only be considered a comic book.
It simply bothers believers that facts get in the way of their fantasy.
Discounting the power of God does not change the facts of creation.
GC
No, the facts of the universe discount your 'facts' of creation.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 8, 2013 at 1:03 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 10:26 am)Chas Wrote: (October 4, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Discounting the power of God does not change the facts of creation.
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No, the facts of the universe discount your 'facts' of creation.
Chas,
Don't you believe in the dancing sky-man's magic dust?
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 9, 2013 at 12:32 am
(October 8, 2013 at 10:26 am)Chas Wrote: (October 4, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Discounting the power of God does not change the facts of creation.
GC
No, the facts of the universe discount your 'facts' of creation.
Prove the big bang then.
GC
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 9, 2013 at 12:47 am
(October 4, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: (October 4, 2013 at 12:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Any book that treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light, any book that pops adult men suddenly out of dirt, and pops an adult woman out of a man's rib, can only be considered a comic book.
It simply bothers believers that facts get in the way of their fantasy.
Discounting the power of God does not change the facts of creation.
GC
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 9, 2013 at 1:13 am
(October 9, 2013 at 12:32 am)Godschild Wrote: Prove the big bang then.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 9, 2013 at 1:14 am
(October 9, 2013 at 12:32 am)Godschild Wrote: Prove the big bang then.
GC
Done. And let's not pretend you have anything like this with respects to your god or creation, GC.
Incidentally, are you going to retract your claim about the trees and admit you were wrong, in the fact of the evidence?
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