Hey! Curiosity! That's encouraging.

Well in terms of God, believers accept that He can't be explained by laws of science, thus an always existing God doesn't go against the initial belief of God that is accepted through Faith. On the other hand since we don't know how/what/(possible even when) the bing bang happened, doesn't it also need a considerable amount of faith to believe in?? But I've always had questions of the Big Bang, not to doubt it's credibility, (too young in my learning to affirm my views on its authenticity) but can it be explained and fully explained by science? Like doesn't it goes against the first law of thermodynamics? So does the Big Bang operate outside the realm of science? Or at least science as we know it? Really not trying to troll just very curios on this stuff.

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: On the other hand since we don't know how/what/(possible even when) the bing bang happened, doesn't it also need a considerable amount of faith to believe in??

Try this out for a size:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3MWRvLndzs

(October 14, 2013 at 6:21 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI9ImScQG...detailpage

Every time I see that, I always have to laugh at "Goooooooooooooooooooood."

I watched that video. Very interesting theory. More questions lol. It seems easier for me to accept God than accepting an eternal "always existing" universe (and much more rewarding if I happen to be right) and how can we understand its creation through science if we can only see a tiny, tiny portion of the universe (if it is finite, the video wasn't very clear on that)

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: Well in terms of God, believers accept that He can't be explained by laws of science, thus an always existing God doesn't go against the initial belief of God that is accepted through Faith.

So you understand that you are presupposing a god, right?

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: On the other hand since we don't know how/what/(possible even when) the bing bang happened, doesn't it also need a considerable amount of faith to believe in??

Well, the theory of the big bang didn't come out of some guy's imagination...
First, there was the observation that galaxies are moving away from each other... then, someone thought of looking at it backwards... if they're moving away from each other, then, going backwards in time, they're coming together... eventually, they're too close together...
And then quantum mechanics takes over, I'm not going into that.
But the point is... the theory doesn't presuppose what happened, it just extrapolates from our current observations.

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: But I've always had questions of the Big Bang, not to doubt it's credibility, (too young in my learning to affirm my views on its authenticity) but can it be explained and fully explained by science?

No.

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: Like doesn't it goes against the first law of thermodynamics?

Maybe.. that's why scientists still call it a singularity... not sure what's going on there... something weird...

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: So does the Big Bang operate outside the realm of science?

Quantum mechanics... those seem to operate outside the realm of science, sometimes... but then you see that the math adds up.. in a strange way.

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: Or at least science as we know it?

Well, maybe one of the myriad String theories is onto something... until then, we can't know...

(October 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: Really not trying to troll just very curios on this stuff.

Very complex stuff.
We don't have all the answers... yet (hopefully).
That doesn't mean we should default to "goddidit".
To me, the default is "don't know"... let the experts work on it and then we'll know if we can know....

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(October 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: I watched that video. Very interesting theory. More questions lol. It seems easier for me to accept God than accepting an eternal "always existing" universe (and much more rewarding if I happen to be right) and how can we understand its creation through science if we can only see a tiny, tiny portion of the universe (if it is finite, the video wasn't very clear on that)

You are now clearly -.-' prepared to watch this other video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaGktVQdNg

Could you explain some key points <3 I'm at a library and don't have headphones.

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And I was curious on this, let's say there is a God, how would you want Him to have created the universe/you differently in order from you to believe in Him and live your lives for Him??

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And honest answers no ranting plz

(October 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: I watched that video. Very interesting theory. More questions lol. It seems easier for me to accept God than accepting an eternal "always existing" universe (and much more rewarding if I happen to be right) and how can we understand its creation through science if we can only see a tiny, tiny portion of the universe (if it is finite, the video wasn't very clear on that)

As I am not a physicist (though if you have questions about biology and chemistry, especially in the form of drugs and medicine, I'm your gal), but there are a lot of good books, lectures and videos available. It is a hard concept to grasp, even I caught something new from the short vid I linked today. The thing is, it's so easy to believe in a god, because you don't need to get out of a comfort zone while believing. You just take the dogma for granted. Science is a terrifying thing in the sense that it isn't necessarily constant. The more data we gather, the more observations we make, the better one can get an understanding about the world around and in us. It's not something to be spoonfed to you from infancy, it's something you need to strive and study for. Understanding is wonderful, but you need to study hard in order to achieve it. And perhaps the hardest part, you have to get used to the idea of not knowing, but having a sense of where to begin if you'd like to figure it out.

And what would your explanation be, good sir? "God did it"?

(October 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm)Hey313313 Wrote: And I was curious on this, let's say there is a God, how would you want Him to have created the universe/you differently in order from you to believe in Him and live your lives for Him??

It could have created it in any fashion it chose, but I would have really appreciated the inclusion of an instruction manual including the publisher's address.
3...2...1... Wait for it...