(October 16, 2013 at 11:18 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Predicting the end of the world 2000 years away for them is like us trying to predict what is going to happen in the year 4000. It's not even close to plausible.

There's a prophecy in scripture that's over 2000 years old, the destruction of the nation of Israel and it's revival.
The people were scattered and the nation dissolved for around 1900 years, but was restored in the 1940's. Never has this happened with any nation, let lone one connected with a prophecy. But you're right we can't, only an omniscient God could.

GC

Ever hear of such a thing as a self-fulfilling prophecy? But, no, that'd be preposterous!

(October 17, 2013 at 1:43 am)Godschild Wrote: There's a prophecy in scripture that's over 2000 years old, the destruction of the nation of Israel and it's revival.
The people were scattered and the nation dissolved for around 1900 years, but was restored in the 1940's. Never has this happened with any nation, let lone one connected with a prophecy. But you're right we can't, only an omniscient God could.

GC

My problem with that way of thinking is that you could predict almost anything you could think of, and if you wait long enough, it just might happen. I could predict that Israel will become an Arab state, and 1500 years from now, it might happen. Who can say for sure? I gave no timeframe, so it is applicable for all eternity. Maybe the 20th century creation of Israel isn't the one meant in the bible. Maybe it will break up in 50 years, then come back together in the 22nd century? Not likely? Can you predict the future? There's just too much vagueness to believe any prophecies. Remember, Tyre was meant to be washed out to sea and Jesus was supposed to return in the lifetimes of his apostles, and those things never happened. Or were they just metaphors? =P

Couple of points, aside from the obvious - you are barking mad:

1. The number of the beast could actually be 616 - there are conflicting texts on this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast)

2. I thought the New pope (who is huge on change) was going to be the antichrist - I got it from a "reliable" source on this very site.

I just wish you people would make up your minds - I need to know who I should be unjustifiably scared of.

Any more smart ideas, professor?

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(October 17, 2013 at 1:43 am)Godschild Wrote:

(October 16, 2013 at 11:18 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote: Predicting the end of the world 2000 years away for them is like us trying to predict what is going to happen in the year 4000. It's not even close to plausible.

There's a prophecy in scripture that's over 2000 years old, the destruction of the nation of Israel and it's revival.
The people were scattered and the nation dissolved for around 1900 years, but was restored in the 1940's. Never has this happened with any nation, let lone one connected with a prophecy. But you're right we can't, only an omniscient God could.

GC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

Was there anything else, GC?

(October 16, 2013 at 9:34 pm)professor Wrote:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS53I-k_T4o

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This is proof that people will perceive whatever they are inclined to. "Yes we can" is so far from being "thank you satan" backwards it's ridiculous, but the claim clearly demonstrates the failures of the human brain.

Don't waste your energy on such nonsense.

On intellegence - which would be better- to think one might be smart and occasionally be right, or to think one is smart and occasionally be wrong?
One elevator takes U up and one lets U down.
But I would like to add some more observation to the mimicry of the great and powerful O.
Last Spring he decided to make his first trip to Israel as pres.
But first we need to backtrack 2000 yrs. On the very day O was to make his entry to Jerusalem- Jesus entered that city. He rode on a borrowed donkey to the songs of Hosanna by children and the waving of plam branches. In fulfillment of O.T. prophecy which said; "Look- your king comes, humbly riding on back of a foal of an ass". ( humility is the very opposite of what worldly kings express as they rode in on horses)

Now fast forward to O and his trip.
He sent his limo (nicknamed by the secret service- the "Beast" ahead to Israel. When he got to his destination the beast had gotten sick (not equipped with a fuel differention devise and it was fed diesel instead of unleaded- how such a mistake could happen seems impossible to me- knowing cars like I do).
So the trimumphant entry to Jerusalem was made by O on the exact anniversary date as Jesus, the children were given flags to wave (instead of palm branches) and the people of Israel welcomed him with open arms, while O rode in a borrowed Beast.

To calculate the odds of the above as regards to days- one chance in 365. But what about the borrowed Beast? And it's very name?
The odds then go thru the roof.

By the way, Jesus did say to them that they would not see Him again until they said, blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
The name of Barack has the meaning of "Blessed". So there is a possible double refrence here:
1) The normal concept that Israel will get to the point of welcoming Him.
2) A person named Barack must first be welcomed - then afterward Jesus would return.

Another by the way, every time you buy insurance, you are investing in an industry which believes totally in odds.
Odds are the very foundation of your premium and their ability to do buisness. The acturial tables are based on your calculated odds of survival.
There isn't an insurance company in the world that will take the other side of that 3.3 trillion to one odds I mentioned before.

P.S. it takes me some time to express this stuff and I don't live here, so I thank you ahead of time for patience.

(October 17, 2013 at 8:21 am)professor Wrote: In fulfillment of O.T. prophecy which said; "Look- your king comes, humbly riding on back of a foal of an ass". ( humility is the very opposite of what worldly kings express as they rode in on horses)

But he was also being regaled as a god and a king by adoring masses. When the pharisees grumbled about this, Jesus told them that if the people had not raised their voices in praise, "the stones would cry out." How humble is it to require praise so desperately that you would've demanded that inanimate objects pick up the slack if the locals hadn't been enthusiastic enough?

(October 17, 2013 at 8:21 am)professor Wrote:

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On intellegence - which would be better- to think one might be smart and occasionally be right, or to think one is smart and occasionally be wrong?
One elevator takes U up and one lets U down.
But I would like to add some more observation to the mimicry of the great and powerful O.
Last Spring he decided to make his first trip to Israel as pres.
But first we need to backtrack 2000 yrs. On the very day O was to make his entry to Jerusalem- Jesus entered that city. He rode on a borrowed donkey to the songs of Hosanna by children and the waving of plam branches. In fulfillment of O.T. prophecy which said; "Look- your king comes, humbly riding on back of a foal of an ass". ( humility is the very opposite of what worldly kings express as they rode in on horses)

Now fast forward to O and his trip.
He sent his limo (nicknamed by the secret service- the "Beast" ahead to Israel. When he got to his destination the beast had gotten sick (not equipped with a fuel differention devise and it was fed diesel instead of unleaded- how such a mistake could happen seems impossible to me- knowing cars like I do).
So the trimumphant entry to Jerusalem was made by O on the exact anniversary date as Jesus, the children were given flags to wave (instead of palm branches) and the people of Israel welcomed him with open arms, while O rode in a borrowed Beast.

To calculate the odds of the above as regards to days- one chance in 365. But what about the borrowed Beast? And it's very name?
The odds then go thru the roof.

By the way, Jesus did say to them that they would not see Him again until they said, blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
The name of Barack has the meaning of "Blessed". So there is a possible double refrence here:
1) The normal concept that Israel will get to the point of welcoming Him.
2) A person named Barack must first be welcomed - then afterward Jesus would return.

Another by the way, every time you buy insurance, you are investing in an industry which believes totally in odds.
Odds are the very foundation of your premium and their ability to do buisness. The acturial tables are based on your calculated odds of survival.
There isn't an insurance company in the world that will take the other side of that 3.3 trillion to one odds I mentioned before.

P.S. it takes me some time to express this stuff and I don't live here, so I thank you ahead of time for patience.

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You are a Poe, right?

(October 17, 2013 at 8:32 am)LastPoet Wrote: You are a Poe, right?

Either that or his medication ran out.