Quote:You start first and say "I feel the need for pure materialism as an answer because"

I don't get the jump from not believing in a god to materialism? can you expand on that?

(October 19, 2013 at 5:57 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: People would have known that a jet plane was a work of intelligence if they saw it. Yes the universe is a little different to that but there still was a purpose in the way it was formed I don't doubt that for a second.

What is that purpose? Obviously, it can't be to harbor life, since the overwhelming majority of the universe does not.

(October 19, 2013 at 11:44 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: God is God all that exists is from God. I may as well ask you why you feel the need support this materialist agenda that denies the existence of God?

Oh look, another lie about what atheists believe. Do you think your god is proud of you, Sword?

Quote:You start first and say "I feel the need for pure materialism as an answer because"

What do you know? Another one! Are you out to impress Satan, maybe?

Quote:And then you say "Richard Dawkin's said so" or whatever. You probably haven't really thought about it beyond dismissing anything that doesn't fit with the presupposition you already have.

That makes three, you dishonest fuck.

Seriously, where do you get off telling us what we believe? How do you get the sheer fucking arrogance to think you know anything about us and our position? You don't know us, you don't know our thoughts, you don't even know our names, and yet somehow you're more qualified to detail what we think that we are? How can you not see that you're lying, right now? What makes you think this is okay?

We aren't doing this to you, you prick! All of us are asking questions, getting you to tell us what you believe, and then critiquing those answers.

(October 19, 2013 at 7:19 am)daandaan Wrote: You mean your intelligent designer that had not to be designed??

What would there be to design?

(October 19, 2013 at 12:12 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(October 19, 2013 at 7:19 am)daandaan Wrote: You mean your intelligent designer that had not to be designed??

What would there be to design?

That honestly sounds like an admission that your god doesn't exist, Sword.

(October 19, 2013 at 12:12 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(October 19, 2013 at 7:19 am)daandaan Wrote: You mean your intelligent designer that had not to be designed??

What would there be to design?

isnt yahweh mad at u becouse u gave him a name??

u called him eternity...

(October 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm)StuW Wrote: I don't get the jump from not believing in a god to materialism? can you expand on that?

Is the universe/are we a purpose made creation of a higher intelligence or an accident/unintentional as a byproduct of a non-sentient natural process of some kind? If you have no idea come back when you do and then answer it. If it's the latter not the former then you are a materialist

(October 19, 2013 at 12:08 pm)Ryantology Wrote: What is that purpose? Obviously, it can't be to harbor life, since the overwhelming majority of the universe does not.

The purpose of the universe is to create intelligent/civilized forms of life, if that's what you're asking. It wasn't randomly generated by chance but was purposely created by God.

The purpose of the universe is to create intelligent/civilized forms of life, if that's what you're asking. It wasn't randomly generated by chance but was purposely created by God.
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nope...thats not in the buybull, so ur lying and bullshitting ..

(October 19, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Is the universe/are we a purpose made creation of a higher intelligence or an accident/unintentional as a byproduct of a non-sentient natural process of some kind? If you have no idea come back when you do and then answer it. If it's the latter not the former then you are a materialist

Still on the false dichotomies, are we? Tell me, what makes you think those are the only two options? Especially when I provided you with like five of them the last time you brought this up.

Quote:The purpose of the universe is to create intelligent/civilized forms of life, if that's what you're asking. It wasn't randomly generated by chance but was purposely created by God.

And your assertion of this should mean anything to us, why?

I keep getting ignored...
I should be getting used to it...
And yet... no... I'll just ask again

(October 19, 2013 at 5:57 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: Yes the universe is a little different to that but there still was a purpose in the way it was formed I don't doubt that for a second.

And why, do you think, is it that most of us do doubt that?

Can you try to put yourself in our shoes?