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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 2:53 pm
(October 19, 2013 at 1:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It does not matter how they were raised. Their regimes were explicitly atheistic.
You realize that unless you are a polytheist, you are very very atheistic too?
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Quote:Just Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.
Ruling over very superstitious societies. First off, religion never left Russia. THE USSR was not anti religion, it was anti competition to the Communist party. Orthodox Russian Christianity was quite acceptable. Oh and even today Putin said after his country passed laws banning "gay propaganda", said "We are all God's Children".
Secondly Po Pot ruled over majority Buddhist countries.
Saying that all all atheists will become dictators is like saying all men who have mustaches love Hitler.
But, what these two monsters do have in common with the god of Abraham, just like your god, they are the absolute immovable authority.
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm
(October 19, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Rationalman Wrote: (October 19, 2013 at 1:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It does not matter how they were raised. Their regimes were explicitly atheistic.
You realize that unless you are a polytheist, you are very very atheistic too?
he is changing the subject ...
he posted-----Hitler was NOT an atheist.(answer to someone)
Just Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot
he was talking about persons and now shifts to talking about regimes..
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm
(October 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm)daandaan Wrote: (October 19, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Rationalman Wrote: You realize that unless you are a polytheist, you are very very atheistic too?
he is changing the subject ...
he posted-----Hitler was NOT an atheist.(answer to someone)
Just Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot
he was talking about persons and now shifts to talking about regimes..
I don't care if he was talking about individual no name atheists. The believer has been deeply brainwashed into believing that the word "atheist" is evil. They simply cannot stand we don't drink their Kool Aid. That is their baggage, not ours.
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 4:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2013 at 4:42 pm by daandaan.)
(October 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (October 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm)daandaan Wrote: he is changing the subject ...
he posted-----Hitler was NOT an atheist.(answer to someone)
Just Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot
he was talking about persons and now shifts to talking about regimes..
I don't care if he was talking about individual no name atheists. The believer has been deeply brainwashed into believing that the word "atheist" is evil. They simply cannot stand we don't drink their Kool Aid. That is their baggage, not ours.
indeed, the religious r nothing more as vile and evil fashist terrorist criminals , their crimes to humanity r unendless.
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 4:47 pm
I find it interesting that many Christians say that atheists will commit evil acts, because we are not bound by the bible. And without that moral compass we are destined to be terrible. Yet they completely gloss over the fact that a christian can live an absolutely abhorrent immoral life, and on his deathbed ask for forgiveness and be absolved of all wrongdoing. For all we know if Hitler apologized before he died he could be chilling with Jesus right now. Which would be awkward......because Jesus was a Jew.
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 7:06 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2013 at 7:06 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
I regret having brought up Stalin and Mao. Why do you guys jump on the low hanging fruit rather than address the more substantive part of the post?
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 7:47 pm
(October 19, 2013 at 7:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I regret having brought up Stalin and Mao. Why do you guys jump on the low hanging fruit rather than address the more substantive part of the post?
Did I not already do so a page or 2 back?
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm
(October 19, 2013 at 4:40 pm)daandaan Wrote: (October 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I don't care if he was talking about individual no name atheists. The believer has been deeply brainwashed into believing that the word "atheist" is evil. They simply cannot stand we don't drink their Kool Aid. That is their baggage, not ours.
indeed, the religious r nothing more as vile and evil fashist terrorist criminals , their crimes to humanity r unendless.
Hold on now. I never said all religious people are fascists. I hate religion because of what it does to people, but I will never hate all religious people just because they have claims I may hate. There are 7 billion people on this planet.
I attack religion, not to get rid of it, that is just as impossible as religions trying to get rid of us or other religions. I attack religion to keep it in its place.
The God character can only be defined as a dictator. AS A CHARACTER, but not all of the fans of that comic book view him as such. I can point out that literature review without hating someone who might buy into it.
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RE: Is There a Point To Living a Moral Life?
October 19, 2013 at 8:36 pm
(October 19, 2013 at 7:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I regret having brought up Stalin and Mao. Why do you guys jump on the low hanging fruit rather than address the more substantive part of the post?
Perhaps because your post boiled down to nothing substantial. You used a lot of words, but you didn't end up saying much.
And you seem to be under the impression that a belief that all of the universe is simply compiled of physical processes doesn't account for abstract concepts. What you can't seem to grasp is that humans create these abstract concepts, and the human mind reduces to physical processes. Just because a human can contemplate the idea of freedom does not mean that freedom is anything more than a fanciful notion of a physical brain. We invent ideas and concepts as we attempt to navigate this chatoic world and determine what effects different things have upon our existence. The ability to create value from that does not entail that life cannot be reduced to physical processes.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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