(October 19, 2013 at 2:19 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You know, Sword, you might want to consider reading what people actually write without passing it through your filter of preconceived bias first.

Frankly, you're coming across as an arrogant asshole.

What difference will it make? He/she will still spew his/her verbal diarrhea here, and shove our noses in it as if we are ignorant dogs that need to be shown the truth. SoC is content with being an arrogant asshole and condescendingly putting words in others' mouths while completely avoiding having to provide anything of substance of his/her own. It will be bare assertion after bare assertion peached sanctimoniously from his/her high horse, all to stroke the enormous ego his/her pompous god saw fit to bestow upon him/her.

It's like we're all standing around having a discussion and SoC comes running into the room, jumps into the middle of the group completely naked and proceeds to jerk off while screaming, "Look at me, guys!" And then when we fail to acknowledge such idiocy, or even dare point out the vileness of the act, we're tackled and tea-bagged until we say, "uncle."

There's no reasoning with such a person, and I for one am sick of this egregiously vulgar display of narcissism and stupidity. Go fuck yourself, SoC.

*breathes deeply*

I feel better now.

(October 19, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: The purpose of the universe is to create intelligent/civilized forms of life, if that's what you're asking. It wasn't randomly generated by chance but was purposely created by God.

Penis of Cod, what is the purpose of a flower? Of a sunset? Of a star?

sword, why r u avoiding my question ...

yesterday u stated god is eternity
a moment ago u stated god is god

i asked u to what r u praying ...eternity ?? or god ??

I also asked him how atheism is equal to materialism and how he reconciles the fact that the most complex organism on this planet is a plant.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:54 pm)StuW Wrote: I also asked him how atheism is equal to materialism and how he reconciles the fact that the most complex organism on this planet is a plant.

CREATIONIST ONLINE DEBATING TIP 78:

When encountering someone u think u cant win from , just act as if he is not there .

It enables u to confront weaker opponents u might be able to win from..

If u run out of luck, u can ignore that one as well and start all over again talking to some other atheist that U think U can win from.

This procedure can be repeated over and over again until u urself gets tired.

The procedure then is: Claim Victory and tell everyone he will go to hell, and RUN.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:04 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Do you believe in God and a purpose made universe? If you don't then what I'm saying applies to you you have to know what you actually believe.

Except that there are more than two options, and this has been explained to you multiple times, putting the lie to you claiming that we're all materialists. You know we aren't; we've told you what we believe often enough that there's no longer any excuse for not understanding it. You're just a liar, and have been for some time.

Quote:Are you having some kind of conversation with yourself here? I don't know what you're going on about.

When you tell other people what they believe, when they've specifically told you otherwise, then you are lying, and making strawmen. Is that simple enough for you, or do I need to get out the fucking hand puppets?

Quote:Because you don't seem to know or understand what you believe.

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I am literally vibrating with rage right now. Who the fuck do you think you are, you arrogant little shitstain? I don't know what I believe? Yet somehow you, a complete stranger who has never so much as seriously considered my chosen position before, does know? Go sodomize yourself with a raccoon, you lying bag of dicks.

This, if nothing else, just underscores your colossal ego, Sword. You can be told, by the person who you're talking about, that you're wrong about the thoughts they have in their head, and you would rather argue that you know better than they do what's in their minds. Because you just can't be wrong, can you? It'd hurt too much to admit it? You'll keep trundling on into fucking oblivion rather than just accept the possibility that you might be mistaken on any conceivable level.

You have precisely two choices, here: either you continue with this line of reasoning, at which point you need to illuminate us all as to how you know who I am and what granted you the telepathic powers to peer into my head and know that my position is different from the one I've stated, or you can admit that you were wrong. Either way, you can also go fuck yourself.

Quote:If you don't believe in God or a creator or a higher power or a purposeful creation then you are believing what I'm telling you.

Or there's more than two options. Which there is. Ambivalence is the third one. It's mine, and most of the others you've talked to here. You've been informed of this.

So you're a liar.

Quote: Or do you actually believe in God and you're just being dishonest with yourself? Are you trying to be rebellious and cool? Trying to fit in with a group? Do you believe God or not? I'm not asking what you know btw.

I don't believe in god, nor am I a materialist, because I don't stupidly need to lock myself into concrete categories when I don't have sufficient information. Try and let that thought percolate through your anemic little mind before you respond, okay?

Just repeat this to yourself: "I do not know everything. New information exists, and rejecting it out of hand just makes me look like a dickhead."

Quote:You don't even know what you believe. You may want to find out before you try argue about this. Atheists who do know what they believe and why will agree with me.

Look around you, shit for brains: do you see a single other atheist agreeing with you?

Incidentally, given that you haven't once asked me what I believe, how could you know what I do or do not think about it? Our interactions have been roughly restricted to exactly this: you say something inaccurate about what I believe, I say "that's wrong, please don't do that," and you lack the common courtesy to respond with anything other than more inaccurate assumptions.

The entirety of our interactions have been me saying "no, I don't believe that," but don't you dare have the hide to take that to mean I don't know what I do believe, after not even bothering to ask.

Quote:You have demonstrated your own ignorance when it comes to the question of God and what it means if he doesn't exist.

Or, you're a petty and small minded pedant who doesn't have the mental capacity to consider a third option. You've been given it here. There isn't an excuse for continuing to talk like this anymore.

Quote:I don't need to know your name to tell what atheism and a universe without God/a purpose giver entails.

So what about a universe where we admit we don't know what's out there? Because literally everyone has been telling you that's what our position is. Are you seriously that stupid or illiterate that you don't get that?

Did you even read the posts that explained this to you?

Quote:I'm giving you plenty of answers regarding what a belief in God/a purposeful power entails. This being contrasted to alternative which essentially materialism, the coincidental byproduct of a directionless non-intelligent natural force that just exists as it is by itself.

So what if we're essentially neutral and waiting for better evidence than a jumped up little shit like you can produce?

Quote: If you want to reject God then it will help you to understand what thew deal actually would be rather than trying to argue, swear or accuse me lying about something. This is entirely truthful and true.

Consider the possibility that you're so infuriating you invite the swearing.

(October 19, 2013 at 3:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

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(October 19, 2013 at 3:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

from left to right they r called , knowledge, education , logic and reason ...the names of the 4 horseman that ll be the endtimes of the religious.

(October 19, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Penis of Cod, what is the purpose of a flower? Of a sunset? Of a star?

Flowering and fruit, crops are for agriculture if you go back to say the Carboniferous all you would really have to eat are some fern and bracken or whatever.



You can see there how there isn't much in the way of decent grub to sustain a global civilisation.

Stars essentially have two main important functions for life.

1) They are the primary energy source for all living processes for the deep sea thermal vent dwellers. In the food chain/web it provides the means of food production of the primary producers.



2) The larger short lived stars are the factories for producing the heavy elements required to manufacture smaller long lived stars with orbiting planets.

Humans can of course appreciate the natural beauty of the God created universe if you want to bring up sunsets. What you're looking at is a God made piece of art.

(October 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(October 19, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Penis of Cod, what is the purpose of a flower? Of a sunset? Of a star?

Flowering and fruit, crops are for agriculture if you go back to say the Carboniferous all you would really have to eat are some fern and bracken or whatever.



You can see there how there isn't much in the way of decent grub to sustain a global civilisation.

Stars essentially have two main important functions for life.

1) They are the primary energy source for all living processes for the deep sea thermal vent dwellers. In the food chain/web it provides the means of food production of the primary producers.



2) The larger short lived stars are the factories for producing the heavy elements required to manufacture smaller long lived stars with orbiting planets.

Humans can of course appreciate the natural beauty of the God created universe if you want to bring up sunsets. What you're looking at is a God made piece of art.

of course not ..u r proving that all has come about by natural forces..no magic man needed..

and why r u avoiding my question??


yesterday u stated god is eternity
a moment ago u stated god is god

i asked u to what r u praying ...eternity ?? or god ??