(October 24, 2013 at 10:00 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: So it's wrong for the colleague of a math professor to push to correct his friend when he has demonstrable errors in his equations?

Except math usually has one right answer.

(September 26, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: -In the academic literature nobody moans about burden of proof. This is pretty much an internet thing.

EXACTLY what "literature" are you talking about ? Please summarize it ALL, tally it all, and list ALL the literature you are talking about.

(September 26, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: -Proofs only exist in mathematics and alcohol. In the context of theism and atheism, we go by reason and evidence.

Wrong junior. You obviously never heard about "logic".
http://www.millersville.edu/~bikenaga/ma...rence.html
A-theism is the ABSENCE of belief. It makes no further claims or assertions. It's denial of nothing. The claims are *dismissed*, as they carry as much weight as the one that there is a 1957 Chevy orbiting Pluto.
One does not have to take a "position" concerning every preposterous bit of bullshit that gullible humans spit out. One does not have to take a "position" on whether there is a teapot orbiting the sun.
There is more evidence that the Salem Witches actually WERE witches, than there is for the resurrection. I don't have to do anything, when you can't even define what the word "god" means, in coherent terms.
Nice try, junior.
Try harder.

(October 24, 2013 at 9:53 pm)Polaris Wrote: The religious who push their faith and the atheists who push against faith (without actual provocation) will always need to provide the burden of proof.

No, provocation has nothing to do with it. The theists claim god and his postulates, the atheists deride those claims, meekly or militantly, but make no statutory claims of their own. Only claims need proof. Derision of unsatisfactory proof needs no additional proof. Reason is used to attempt to convince willfully ignorant, but that is a superfluous action.

(October 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(October 24, 2013 at 10:00 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: So it's wrong for the colleague of a math professor to push to correct his friend when he has demonstrable errors in his equations?

Except math usually has one right answer.

And reality doesn't? Are you trying to tell us in so few words the old adage "There are many paths to god"? If so, then we have nothing to discuss because that would make you a crazy person who apparently likes living in la la land.

(October 24, 2013 at 11:22 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:

(October 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm)Polaris Wrote: Except math usually has one right answer.

And reality doesn't? Are you trying to tell us in so few words the old adage "There are many paths to god"? If so, then we have nothing to discuss because that would make you a crazy person who apparently likes living in la la land.

Reality does not have one right answer. Most human suffering has come from people claiming reality has one right answer.

Because most human suffering (in the sense you're using the term) has come from religion.

(October 25, 2013 at 10:54 pm)Polaris Wrote: Reality does not have one right answer. Most human suffering has come from people claiming reality has one right answer.

However, existential claims- like the existence of god- do only have one right answer. There is no possible formulation of the world where god kinda exists.

(October 25, 2013 at 11:05 pm)Owlix Wrote: Because most human suffering (in the sense you're using the term) has come from religion.

Well if you count atheism as a religion, then you would be right. Well actually state-sponsored atheism has become a religion in and of itself just like Christianity sponsored by the state was a massive mistake. Seems government ruins everything.

(October 25, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Polaris Wrote: Well if you count atheism as a religion, then you would be right. Well actually state-sponsored atheism has become a religion in and of itself just like Christianity sponsored by the state was a massive mistake. Seems government ruins everything.

I don't count atheism as a religion. It's not one. But to say that it was, how has atheism led to any of the mass killing that other religions has? How many 'a-holy' wars have been fought in the name of anything but god?

Mind you it's not a religion.

(October 25, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(October 25, 2013 at 11:05 pm)Owlix Wrote: Because most human suffering (in the sense you're using the term) has come from religion.

Well if you count atheism as a religion, then you would be right. Well actually state-sponsored atheism has become a religion in and of itself just like Christianity sponsored by the state was a massive mistake. Seems government ruins everything.

A christian proposing that atheism is a religion to take a shot at it with straw-man arguments?

Who'd have thought?!

Bravo good sir! Bravo!

Now get bent, because atheism is the lack of belief in a god and therefore not a religion you silly twat!