(October 28, 2013 at 10:06 pm)catfish Wrote: 1. The freedom to chose when and how your child learns about homosexual relationships.

You never really had that freedom to begin with, for two reasons: one, the schoolyard is a hive of free information and namecalling, and like all kids, yours will probably pick this up before you get a chance to... do whatever it is you were going to do. The second reason is that there's no fucking government mandated lessons about homosexuality, either. Which I think is kind of important. This isn't some government program, Catfish, it's a realization that we can't discriminate, so if anything we've got teachers showing your kids how to be human beings and not the little hate machines you- seem to- want them to become.

Quote:2. The freedom to chose whether or not your daughter has to get vaccinated for an STD @ 10 years old.

Which vaccination is this? The only one that springs to mind over here is the HPV vaccine, which also covers the attendant cancer risk of that thing, and is also something you can opt out of, from memory. Consider the possibility that your phrasing might be amazingly, childishly way off, and there's things you haven't thought of, here.

(October 28, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(October 28, 2013 at 10:06 pm)catfish Wrote: 1. The freedom to chose when and how your child learns about homosexual relationships.

You never really had that freedom to begin with, for two reasons: one, the schoolyard is a hive of free information and namecalling, and like all kids, yours will probably pick this up before you get a chance to... do whatever it is you were going to do.

Yes, I had that freedom and I used it well.
So you think because a kid might learn something about sexuality that that gives you (secular society) the right to (force) teach them things regarding sex?

(October 28, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The second reason is that there's no fucking government mandated lessons about homosexuality, either. Which I think is kind of important. This isn't some government program, Catfish, it's a realization that we can't discriminate,

In the guise of anti-descrimination, the goverment forced into (our -Pennsylvania's) public school curriculum positive depictions of homosexual relationships (I forget the exact wording).

(October 28, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...so if anything we've got teachers showing your kids how to be human beings and not the little hate machines you- seem to- want them to become.

You better watch what the fuck you say about my kids, asswipe.

(October 28, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

Quote:2. The freedom to chose whether or not your daughter has to get vaccinated for an STD @ 10 years old.

Which vaccination is this? The only one that springs to mind over here is the HPV vaccine, which also covers the attendant cancer risk of that thing, and is also something you can opt out of, from memory. Consider the possibility that your phrasing might be amazingly, childishly way off, and there's things you haven't thought of, here.

Yes, the one that showed in clinical studies a 5% reduction in cervical cancer (just enough to claimd efficacy). While at the same time showing a 5-10% increase in infection rate of the disease they were immunizing against. Again, public school, forced vaccinations...

(October 28, 2013 at 11:40 pm)catfish Wrote: You better watch what the fuck you say about my kids, asswipe.

If you cannot handle the truth....

(October 28, 2013 at 11:40 pm)catfish Wrote: Yes, I had that freedom and I used it well.
So you think because a kid might learn something about sexuality that that gives you (secular society) the right to (force) teach them things regarding sex?

Show me where, on the books, outside of a regular sex education class, such lessons occur. Shouldn't be hard, if our secular government is such a hive of iniquity for you poor, cherry picking christians.

Quote:In the guise of anti-descrimination, the goverment forced into (our -Pennsylvania's) public school curriculum positive depictions of homosexual relationships (I forget the exact wording).

Big hint: a lack of negative descriptions- read: discrimination- does not equal an endorsement. It just means public schools are no longer allowed to be cockheads about this.

Quote:You better watch what the fuck you say about my kids, asswipe.

I'm saying your kids are better than the bigotries you seem to want to install in them. Can you produce another- non bigoted- reason you might want to teach your kids that there's something wrong with gay people?

Quote:Yes, the one that showed in clinical studies a 5% reduction in cervical cancer (just enough to claimd efficacy). While at the same time showing a 5-10% increase in infection rate of the disease they were immunizing against. Again, public school, forced vaccinations...

Was there an actual link determined between the vaccination itself and the disease, or did instances of the disease just go up. And, again, it's kind of optional over here, in my entirely secular government that was run by an atheist up until a little while ago, so... I'd suggest it isn't secularism at fault for that, anyway.

(October 28, 2013 at 11:42 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:

(October 28, 2013 at 11:40 pm)catfish Wrote: You better watch what the fuck you say about my kids, asswipe.

If you cannot handle the truth....

Seriously dude, I wanna hear you say it.

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(October 28, 2013 at 11:51 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'm saying your kids are better than the bigotries you seem to want to install in them. Can you produce another- non bigoted- reason you might want to teach your kids that there's something wrong with gay people?

I'm going to say it right now. Just fuck off man, moderator or not, you say one more thing about what you "seem" to think about my children, I will report your hypocritical ass.

(October 28, 2013 at 11:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Seriously dude, I wanna hear you say it.

You have Skype?

(October 29, 2013 at 12:02 am)Maelstrom Wrote:

(October 28, 2013 at 11:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Seriously dude, I wanna hear you say it.

You have Skype?

No, I won't video chat with you.

(October 28, 2013 at 11:51 pm)catfish Wrote: I'm going to say it right now. Just fuck off man, moderator or not, you say one more thing about what you "seem" to think about my children, I will report your hypocritical ass.

And I wanna make it clear that I don't think anything about your kids. I'm wondering about you, and am saddened by the weird, neurotic bigotry you're displaying, but that's about it.

(October 29, 2013 at 12:05 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(October 28, 2013 at 11:51 pm)catfish Wrote: I'm going to say it right now. Just fuck off man, moderator or not, you say one more thing about what you "seem" to think about my children, I will report your hypocritical ass.

And I wanna make it clear that I don't think anything about your kids. I'm wondering about you, and am saddened by the weird, neurotic bigotry you're displaying, but that's about it.

What neurotic bigotry? I want to know if you actually see bigotry or if you're imagining it.

(October 29, 2013 at 12:04 am)catfish Wrote: No, I won't video chat with you.

Then you will not get to hear me state what you begged to hear.