(November 13, 2013 at 12:03 am)popeyespappy Wrote: If all you say about Allah is is true I can't help but wonder we he chose that goat fucking pedophile Mohammad as his final prophet all those many years ago?

Prophet Muhammad (s) said: “
The person who devotes himself sincerely to
God for forty days, streams of wisdom will flow from his heart to his
tongue.

The Prophet (S.A.W.), says: “It is obligatory for every Muslim to acquire knowledge. Allah likes those who seek knowledge”.

The Prophet (S.A.W.), says: “The best monuments and legacies which a man leaves behind himself are a dutiful son, useful buildings, knowledge and wisdom which are benefited by the people after him”.

The Prophet (S.A.W.), says: “Sleep of a scholar is superior to one thousand rak’ats of prayers offered by a devout person”.

(November 12, 2013 at 11:35 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Atheism is a denial of God. It's a lack of faith there is a God. Atheists have flat out told me God does not exist, they don't say. I'm waiting to see if he does. They ' know' He does not.

You're talking about Gnostic Atheism, which is a thing, but it's not the only thing: most of us here are Agnostic Atheists, which means exactly what I said it does.

Quote:God is One. If there has to be a God there can only be One God as the idea of a God is that He is the Greatest and above all. Meaning no mini gods like in hinduism and other various religions.

I gotta tell you, starting with a completely unjustified assertion (there can only be one god) isn't an amazing start. You then went on to quote some more of your holy book, and make more assertions. But I asked for evidence, where you seem to be working from the assumption that your belief is right and then poking holes in every other religion...

I want to know why your religion is true. Not what's wrong with everyone else, not what's in your scriptures, not the attributes of your religion. I want to know why it's true.

(November 13, 2013 at 12:06 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(November 12, 2013 at 11:35 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Atheism is a denial of God. It's a lack of faith there is a God. Atheists have flat out told me God does not exist, they don't say. I'm waiting to see if he does. They ' know' He does not.

You're talking about Gnostic Atheism, which is a thing, but it's not the only thing: most of us here are Agnostic Atheists, which means exactly what I said it does.

Quote:God is One. If there has to be a God there can only be One God as the idea of a God is that He is the Greatest and above all. Meaning no mini gods like in hinduism and other various religions.

I gotta tell you, starting with a completely unjustified assertion (there can only be one god) isn't an amazing start. You then went on to quote some more of your holy book, and make more assertions. But I asked for evidence, where you seem to be working from the assumption that your belief is right and then poking holes in every other religion...

I want to know why your religion is true. Not what's wrong with everyone else, not what's in your scriptures, not the attributes of your religion. I want to know why it's true.

What you are saying is nonsensical. You don't have your cake and eat it too.You either believe or you don't. You either have faith or you don't. The difference between you and me is not that I have seen God with my own eyes, but that I have faith in God. Those who do not have faith in God deny his existence. I'm not going off empirical scientific evidence.

You're asking exactly the wrong questions. Why is Islam the religion of God? Because it is the most logical. I don't know what type of answer you're looking for but I can tell you it's the wrong answer as it is not unjustified to say there is one God because God is the Most Supreme Being in the Universe and there are none like Him.

Sleepy Wrote:There are 99 names of Allah within the Quran. You can see the full list if you google it, I'm showing you a few.

There are actually more than 99 that are hidden from us. Because philosophically we don't know everything about God. You see what I'm saying?

Al- Muqtadir ( The Powerful )
Al- Basir ( The All-Seeing)
Al- Alim ( The All Knowing )
Al- Mutakabbir ( Supreme in Greatness, The Majestic )
Ar- Rahim ( The Merciful )
Ar Rahman ( The Most Compassionate )
AL WADUD ( THE LOVING ONE )

I truly get a feeling I can't explain when I read His names, and when I say them. There's no religion in comparison.
God is the Greatest and He has no limits. Jesus was His messenger.

Ok, it sounds like Allah is more likely than not a "Classical God" - one that is omni-everything. Such a concept has a myriad number of problems with it philosophically, and thus is an illogical concept.

Wasn't allah a pagan moon god?

who used witchcraft?


poor wee Sleepy......not the brightest tool in the shed

"The entire Renaissance was founded because of the Islamic Golden Age"

Based on the foundations set by the Greeks and others centuries before.

Yes, Islam had a Golden Age. And now much of it has sunk into a new Dark Age.

I'll stick with the real world, thanks.

(November 13, 2013 at 12:24 am)FallentoReason Wrote:

Sleepy Wrote:There are 99 names of Allah within the Quran. You can see the full list if you google it, I'm showing you a few.

There are actually more than 99 that are hidden from us. Because philosophically we don't know everything about God. You see what I'm saying?

Al- Muqtadir ( The Powerful )
Al- Basir ( The All-Seeing)
Al- Alim ( The All Knowing )
Al- Mutakabbir ( Supreme in Greatness, The Majestic )
Ar- Rahim ( The Merciful )
Ar Rahman ( The Most Compassionate )
AL WADUD ( THE LOVING ONE )

I truly get a feeling I can't explain when I read His names, and when I say them. There's no religion in comparison.
God is the Greatest and He has no limits. Jesus was His messenger.

Ok, it sounds like Allah is more likely than not a "Classical God" - one that is omni-everything. Such a concept has a myriad number of problems with it philosophically, and thus is an illogical concept.

Allah is the omnipotent. The only problems that exist are the ones you create yourself, that dwell within yourself. There is no problem associated with Allah.

(November 12, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Zazzy Wrote:

(November 12, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Sleepy Wrote: I'm simply gonna tell you to abandon negative preconceptions regardless of religion and make yourself a better human being.

Yeah, Kichi- Sleepy has you pegged- it's AMAZING how s/he can tell what a bad person you are from this one post! Plus, I suspect you of using witchcraft to make your garden so nice. Stones, please. Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live and all that.

Yeah Zazzy, animal manure...... Magical stuff!

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Persia DID have a golden age and then it was invaded by mohammered's murderous thugs and has descended back to the stone age.

(November 13, 2013 at 12:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(November 12, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Yeah, Kichi- Sleepy has you pegged- it's AMAZING how s/he can tell what a bad person you are from this one post! Plus, I suspect you of using witchcraft to make your garden so nice. Stones, please. Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live and all that.

Yeah Zazzy, animal manure...... Magical stuff!

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Persia DID have a golden age and then it was invaded by mohammered's murderous thugs and has descended back to the stone age.

I thought you'd have the Nac Mac Feegles do your gardening for you?

(November 13, 2013 at 12:47 am)Beccs Wrote:

(November 13, 2013 at 12:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Yeah Zazzy, animal manure...... Magical stuff!

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Persia DID have a golden age and then it was invaded by mohammered's murderous thugs and has descended back to the stone age.

I thought you'd have the Nac Mac Feegles do your gardening for you?

Shhh now .... they dinae want to be noticed, this yea ken