Muslims like people of any other religion were born atheists, then indoctrinated into the religion they were "born into".

Sleepy, this is for you:

(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: This entire universe is not even .001 of his power.

Does that mean it's somewhere around .0009?

(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. Not just saying you're a Muslim but truly believing in the Oneness of Allah. The miracles are all around. The sun, stars, reproduction which is mentioned in the Quran in detail, nature and everything else. These are the miracles of Allah. This entire universe is not even .001 of his power.

What does Allah say?

Live peacefully and treat others with kindness regardless of sex or gender, and race. Be kind, charity is a must, seeking knowledge.

Don't attack unless acting in self defense

Quran 2:90
" Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."

Don't attack first. It's most preferable to use your words to solve any disputes.

Live with morals, ethics, cleanliness, hygiene, kindness and respect with wife and others, having patience, no arrogance, humble and knolwedge seeking.

There are posts by a few individuals on here who it's clear are severely confused and their mind is a horrible place to be. These people have a disease of the heart and mind but they are few on here.

You really need to just go and have a massive wank, and stop blaming other people for the fact that every girl you ever meet will find you repulsive.

Islam is such a desperate religion. To increase their numbers they have to claim all babies were muslims, literally the only group that will not be able to defend themselves against such claims.

So sick of this religion really, it's so illogical I can't believe anyone falls for this unless indoctrinated since they were very very young.

(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. Not just saying you're a Muslim but truly believing in the Oneness of Allah. The miracles are all around. The sun, stars, reproduction which is mentioned in the Quran in detail, nature and everything else. These are the miracles of Allah. This entire universe is not even .001 of his power.

What does Allah say?

Live peacefully and treat others with kindness regardless of sex or gender, and race. Be kind, charity is a must, seeking knowledge.

Don't attack unless acting in self defense

Quran 2:90
" Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."

Don't attack first. It's most preferable to use your words to solve any disputes.

Live with morals, ethics, cleanliness, hygiene, kindness and respect with wife and others, having patience, no arrogance, humble and knolwedge seeking.

There are posts by a few individuals on here who it's clear are severely confused and their mind is a horrible place to be. These people have a disease of the heart and mind but they are few on here.

Actually every Muslim, Christian, atheist and, in fact every human, is born an atheist.

This is obvious since kids have to be taught the god concept, it's not something they come up with on their own.

I grew out of the need for an imaginary friend when I was 12. And I've been a happier, better person since then. The last thing I need is to get into another religion, especially one that would treat me as property, that hates and fears women, especially educated women, and has a 15th century mentality.

"There are posts by a few individuals on here who it's clear are severely confused and their mind is a horrible place to be."

Yes, that would be you.

(December 5, 2013 at 11:14 am)Nineteen Wrote: Everyone borns as muslims with a peaceful fitrat . But then they begin to break in time .

Fitrat : human nature

So adult muslims are no longer peaceful? No shit...

...also, kinda diminishes the allure of Islam, y'know?

(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. </snip>

Are you in the mind of babies ? no , therefore you can't say that they're Muslims.
Also , how an infant can be "Atheist , Agnostic , Apatheist , Ignosticist , Deist , Muslim etc..." because at this age we don't know the concept of any Gods ?

My nieces had a hard time believing my mother still existed and would come back when she went to the bathroom. No one believes in deities when they're born. It should be pretty easy to test this by raising a child while isolated from the knowledge of gods. I doubt any of them would think there was a person in the sky that made the world turn unless they were told.

I suppose the closest you could get is saying all deities, From Zeus to Osiris to Odin to Allah to Vishnu to Jesus is just an aspect of the same guy. which would be closer to hinduism than islam.

(December 5, 2013 at 3:15 pm)viocjit Wrote:

(December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am)Sleepy Wrote: Every atheist and homosexual when they were born was a Muslim. It is in fact the religion atheist can accept at any moment and their lives will become better. </snip>

Are you in the mind of babies ? no , therefore you can't say that they're Muslims.
Also , how an infant can be "Atheist , Agnostic , Apatheist , Ignosticist , Deist , Muslim etc..." because at this age we don't know the concept of any Gods ?

Atheist simply means not a theist. It doesn't mean will never be a theist or rational or scientific or all that other stuff people like to lump together with atheism. Infants are not theists, as you say they don't know the concept of gods, so they are atheists.