(December 11, 2013 at 8:37 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 8:29 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: You again (sigh)...
Actually there would be no Arabs left.

You say that 5 million Jews can take on 200 million arabs? Even with all the flashy gear they have, they have been severely humiliated in Lebanon.
The Jews are a people who have historically been dependent on other nations for survival, and today, their survival in the holy lands is dependent on how much the other nations actually protect them. So I guess you ought to make ready for another Crusade to the holy lands. DEUS VULT!

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(December 11, 2013 at 8:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Were the Arabs to unite and try to do such a thing, I hope that they have a use for some city-sized ashtrays. I seriously doubt Israel will sit idly by and allow a second holocaust without using their nuclear arsenal.

I sincerely hope, for the world's sake, that it never happens.

It will, some day. It matters little whether Israel has all the nukes in the world, they are still five million, while the arabs are 40 times their number, and have a much stronger, local presence, not to mention having arabs within the borders of Israel and at their doorstep.
I'm sure that they might bomb a few arab cities, and kill a couple million of arabs just by those means, but in turn, they will lose everything. It will be just as the story of Samson.

Please, Israel would kill you & your pathetic Moslem friends within a day.

(December 11, 2013 at 8:57 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 8:37 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You say that 5 million Jews can take on 200 million arabs? Even with all the flashy gear they have, they have been severely humiliated in Lebanon.
The Jews are a people who have historically been dependent on other nations for survival, and today, their survival in the holy lands is dependent on how much the other nations actually protect them. So I guess you ought to make ready for another Crusade to the holy lands. DEUS VULT!

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It will, some day. It matters little whether Israel has all the nukes in the world, they are still five million, while the arabs are 40 times their number, and have a much stronger, local presence, not to mention having arabs within the borders of Israel and at their doorstep.
I'm sure that they might bomb a few arab cities, and kill a couple million of arabs just by those means, but in turn, they will lose everything. It will be just as the story of Samson.

Please, Israel would kill you & your pathetic Moslem friends within a day.

And how exactly is that going to come to pass? Will God come down from heaven to help the Jews defeat the Arabs?
If not, the Arabs will most certainly prevail.
But it might not even come to a fight, the Jews will probably flee if they feel that they won't be receiving help. Both Arabs and Jews do have some very important international connections, and it is quite interesting, they have mutual allies. The US.
As Europe is too weak and probably not very keen to risk their necks for a bunch of Jews, its up to America to save them. But with the rising anti-war sentiment, would you really expect the US to launch a crusade to help the Jews?
The Jews are doomed, which is why their attacks are harsh and brutal. Their methods are focused on demoralizing the arabs, with the NATO serving to divide them as they did in North Africa, Iraq and Syria, while oil-rich arab countries are lapdogs of America. But I'm sure that after a while, the arabs will get tired of having a foreign presence within their domain and mount for a full-scale offensive with all their resources and manpower, which would eventually overwhelm Israel in the case of a war without foreign intervention.

Besides, they're not my friends. In truth, the Arabs have brought this upon themselves, when they revolted against our just rule. When the Jews came to our Sultan with a request to buy land in modern day Israel, he declined their request, whereas the Arabs under British rule were glad to sell it to them.
The Arabs ought to clean up their own mess that is Israel, and eventually they will.

(December 11, 2013 at 9:17 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 8:57 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: Please, Israel would kill you & your pathetic Moslem friends within a day.

And how exactly is that going to come to pass? Will God come down from heaven to help the Jews defeat the Arabs?
If not, the Arabs will most certainly prevail.
But it might not even come to a fight, the Jews will probably flee if they feel that they won't be receiving help. Both Arabs and Jews do have some very important international connections, and it is quite interesting, they have mutual allies. The US.
As Europe is too weak and probably not very keen to risk their necks for a bunch of Jews, its up to America to save them. But with the rising anti-war sentiment, would you really expect the US to launch a crusade to help the Jews?
The Jews are doomed, which is why their attacks are harsh and brutal. Their methods are focused on demoralizing the arabs, with the NATO serving to divide them as they did in North Africa, Iraq and Syria, while oil-rich arab countries are lapdogs of America. But I'm sure that after a while, the arabs will get tired of having a foreign presence within their domain and mount for a full-scale offensive with all their resources and manpower, which would eventually overwhelm Israel in the case of a war without foreign intervention.

Besides, they're not my friends. In truth, the Arabs have brought this upon themselves, when they revolted against our just rule. When the Jews came to our Sultan with a request to buy land in modern day Israel, he declined their request, whereas the Arabs under British rule were glad to sell it to them.
The Arabs ought to clean up their own mess that is Israel, and eventually they will.

Forty times the population will do a great deal of good against nukes. Arab/Persian savages can't even figure out how they work, let alone build them.

(December 11, 2013 at 10:12 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 9:17 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: And how exactly is that going to come to pass? Will God come down from heaven to help the Jews defeat the Arabs?
If not, the Arabs will most certainly prevail.
But it might not even come to a fight, the Jews will probably flee if they feel that they won't be receiving help. Both Arabs and Jews do have some very important international connections, and it is quite interesting, they have mutual allies. The US.
As Europe is too weak and probably not very keen to risk their necks for a bunch of Jews, its up to America to save them. But with the rising anti-war sentiment, would you really expect the US to launch a crusade to help the Jews?
The Jews are doomed, which is why their attacks are harsh and brutal. Their methods are focused on demoralizing the arabs, with the NATO serving to divide them as they did in North Africa, Iraq and Syria, while oil-rich arab countries are lapdogs of America. But I'm sure that after a while, the arabs will get tired of having a foreign presence within their domain and mount for a full-scale offensive with all their resources and manpower, which would eventually overwhelm Israel in the case of a war without foreign intervention.

Besides, they're not my friends. In truth, the Arabs have brought this upon themselves, when they revolted against our just rule. When the Jews came to our Sultan with a request to buy land in modern day Israel, he declined their request, whereas the Arabs under British rule were glad to sell it to them.
The Arabs ought to clean up their own mess that is Israel, and eventually they will.

Forty times the population will do a great deal of good against nukes. Arab/Persian savages can't even figure out how they work, let alone build them.

I guess you don't know much about warfare. You can't win a war with nukes. Tell me, in the case of a united arab army, marching towards your capital, where do you suggest as a tactical target to use your nukes?
Cairo? Baghdad? Damascus? Mecca or Medina? Riyadh? Aqaba?
Where?
Not to mention that Israel is a fairly small country, its population is dense, and its production facilities are concentrated in certain areas, the arabs would overrun Israel.

(December 11, 2013 at 10:50 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 10:12 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: Forty times the population will do a great deal of good against nukes. Arab/Persian savages can't even figure out how they work, let alone build them.

I guess you don't know much about warfare. You can't win a war with nukes. Tell me, in the case of a united arab army, marching towards your capital, where do you suggest as a tactical target to use your nukes?
Cairo? Baghdad? Damascus? Mecca or Medina? Riyadh? Aqaba?
Where?
Not to mention that Israel is a fairly small country, its population is dense, and its production facilities are concentrated in certain areas, the arabs would overrun Israel.

Please, Israel would level all the Arab capitals in a few minutes with its nukes. That won't happen though, not even the Moslems are that stupid.

(December 11, 2013 at 10:59 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 10:50 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I guess you don't know much about warfare. You can't win a war with nukes. Tell me, in the case of a united arab army, marching towards your capital, where do you suggest as a tactical target to use your nukes?
Cairo? Baghdad? Damascus? Mecca or Medina? Riyadh? Aqaba?
Where?
Not to mention that Israel is a fairly small country, its population is dense, and its production facilities are concentrated in certain areas, the arabs would overrun Israel.

Please, Israel would level all the Arab capitals in a few minutes with its nukes. That won't happen though, not even the Moslems are that stupid.

Well, in the scenario of a united arab country, there would be a single capital, and I'm also betting on a far more advanced arab world that has nuclear capabilites that would probably exceed those of Israel.
Israel would not stand a chance.
You're living in a dream world, but hey, you're communist, a jew-loving communist at that. How stereotypical.

(December 11, 2013 at 11:14 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 10:59 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: Please, Israel would level all the Arab capitals in a few minutes with its nukes. That won't happen though, not even the Moslems are that stupid.

Well, in the scenario of a united arab country, there would be a single capital, and I'm also betting on a far more advanced arab world that has nuclear capabilites that would probably exceed those of Israel.
Israel would not stand a chance.
You're living in a dream world, but hey, you're communist, a jew-loving communist at that. How stereotypical.

I put that ting about being a Jew-loving communist in my sig!

Also, the Arabs advancing? They have had hundreds of years to do that & yet they are still eating camel dung.

(December 11, 2013 at 11:35 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 11:14 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, in the scenario of a united arab country, there would be a single capital, and I'm also betting on a far more advanced arab world that has nuclear capabilites that would probably exceed those of Israel.
Israel would not stand a chance.
You're living in a dream world, but hey, you're communist, a jew-loving communist at that. How stereotypical.

I put that ting about being a Jew-loving communist in my sig!

Also, the Arabs advancing? They have had hundreds of years to do that & yet they are still eating camel dung.

I'm not going to defend the arabs, but even in today's state, a well coordinated arab offense would eradicate Israel from the surface of the earth. As you said, the Arabs have a lot of countries and a lot of cities. The Jews only have few.
In truth, the Jew and Arab are similar, as they are in fact kindred. As such, I make not much of a distinction between them, other than the fact that Arabs were not forced to live out most of their existence as being the troublesome minorities of other nations, constantly being shipped from place to place. The Jews were, so I take that they will probably just face another expulsion to add to their long list. Its just the way it is. One is destined to be a camel fucker, the other a homeless vagrant.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:01 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:

(December 11, 2013 at 11:35 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: I put that ting about being a Jew-loving communist in my sig!

Also, the Arabs advancing? They have had hundreds of years to do that & yet they are still eating camel dung.

I'm not going to defend the arabs, but even in today's state, a well coordinated arab offense would eradicate Israel from the surface of the earth. As you said, the Arabs have a lot of countries and a lot of cities. The Jews only have few.
In truth, the Jew and Arab are similar, as they are in fact kindred. As such, I make not much of a distinction between them, other than the fact that Arabs were not forced to live out most of their existence as being the troublesome minorities of other nations, constantly being shipped from place to place. The Jews were, so I take that they will probably just face another expulsion to add to their long list. Its just the way it is. One is destined to be a camel fucker, the other a homeless vagrant.

Jew & Arab could not be more dissimilar. The Jews are the most technology advanced people ever to live, yet the Arabs are a bunch of totally primitive savages.

(December 12, 2013 at 12:03 am)MarxRaptor Wrote:

(December 12, 2013 at 12:01 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I'm not going to defend the arabs, but even in today's state, a well coordinated arab offense would eradicate Israel from the surface of the earth. As you said, the Arabs have a lot of countries and a lot of cities. The Jews only have few.
In truth, the Jew and Arab are similar, as they are in fact kindred. As such, I make not much of a distinction between them, other than the fact that Arabs were not forced to live out most of their existence as being the troublesome minorities of other nations, constantly being shipped from place to place. The Jews were, so I take that they will probably just face another expulsion to add to their long list. Its just the way it is. One is destined to be a camel fucker, the other a homeless vagrant.

Jew & Arab could not be more dissimilar. The Jews are the most technology advanced people ever to live, yet the Arabs are a bunch of totally primitive savages.

I personally believe that most of your statements are of dubious credibility. Jews are not the technologically most-advanced people(though arguably more advanced than their arab neighbors), and never have been, in fact, they didn't even have a common language until the foundation of Israel, which leads to the fact that you're nothing but a jew-loving communist.
Though really, I don't think that anyone but God can save the Jews from their inevitable fate. They have not had a presence in the holy lands for hundreds of years, and now they have a small enclave there, and eventually, they will be overrun. Or perhaps, they'll emigrate before they do. From what I hear, the number of Jews leaving Israel is greater than the number of Jews emigrating to Israel.