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Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
Soon, Nineteen will have the whole forum on ignore lol Hilarious
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 3:13 pm)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 14, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'm verbose. You gave me a lot of ground to cover. Most people would just admit that they were wrong and that would be the end of it. Dodgy

I'm not wrong , you are just trying to cover up your mistake by using so much words .

That is the habit of the deceitful. Attempt to use long paragraphs to stay in denial of the truth.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote:
(December 14, 2013 at 3:13 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I'm not wrong , you are just trying to cover up your mistake by using so much words .

That is the habit of the deceitful. Attempt to use long paragraphs to stay in denial of the truth.

You just shot yourself in the foot pal: Allah says in Surat 'Āli `Imrān 3:54:

"And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers."

The Arab word used for "scheme" here is MAKARA! Which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then so are the Muslims!
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote: That is the habit of the deceitful. Attempt to use long paragraphs to stay in denial of the truth.

I dont want to call people with names but yes you're right , there are some users who use this tactic .

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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
The truth is:
All gods have been made up by people.
And, if one of them wasn't made up, then let it show itself to all of mankind so we can all know about it, shedding this stupid requirement of belief which reeks of man-made psychological abuse.

Edit: auto correct corrections.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
Quran 3:54
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."

Plan is different from deceit as Allah is not deceitful with anyone. Allah is the best planners. Atheists can attempt to scheme and plot but it will backfire on them indeed because Allah is Most Majestic and Most Wise.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Quran 3:54
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."

Plan is different from deceit as Allah is not deceitful with anyone. Allah is the best planners. Atheists can attempt to scheme and plot but it will backfire on them indeed because Allah is Most Majestic and Most Wise.

Everything is Gods will which means that everything that disbelievers planned was already planned by God. Am I wrong?
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
That's incorrect because Allah does not pre determine what is going to happen. Any immoral actions are taken by individuals themselves and not because Allah is forcing anybody to do so.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
(December 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Quran 3:54
"And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners."

Plan is different from deceit as Allah is not deceitful with anyone. Allah is the best planners. Atheists can attempt to scheme and plot but it will backfire on them indeed because Allah is Most Majestic and Most Wise.


2:19 Or like a storm from the sky, in it are darkness, thunder, and lightning. They place their fingers in their ears from stunning noises out of fear of death; and God is aware of the ingrates.

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