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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 3:08 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 2:38 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I just found out that I have to go to church tonight for Christmas Eve. My family knows I'm a atheist but that doesn't seem to matter as the pastor is my grandfather. I however find church intolerable. Any body got any advice or in the same boat?
Why be a hypocrite?
Isn't this akin to going to someones house you loath?
Won't your family respect you more if you stand up for your convictions?
Would any of them go to an atheist support rally?
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 2:38 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I just found out that I have to go to church tonight for Christmas Eve. My family knows I'm a atheist but that doesn't seem to matter as the pastor is my grandfather. I however find church intolerable. Any body got any advice or in the same boat?
How old are you? I ask because I don't know. If you are still living under their roof, I'd say don't , make waves.
It's only one night. But seriously, if you don't want to go after this tell them it is not your thing and you'd be happy to attend a home party or another family event elsewhere. If they love you it should not bother them. I take my mom to church events sometimes but she knows I won't go in.
My brother when we first met as adults(I am adopted). Took me to a megachurch, since I was nearly 2,000 miles away from home, I couldn't really say no. He stupidly thought somehow magically I'd find god while there. No, all it did was piss me off.
My advice, go this time. But if you are under age wait until you are old enough and tell them you'd be happy to attend other non religious Christmas events.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (December 24, 2013 at 2:38 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I just found out that I have to go to church tonight for Christmas Eve. My family knows I'm a atheist but that doesn't seem to matter as the pastor is my grandfather. I however find church intolerable. Any body got any advice or in the same boat?
How old are you? I ask because I don't know. If you are still living under their roof, I'd say don't , make waves.
It's only one night. But seriously, if you don't want to go after this tell them it is not your thing and you'd be happy to attend a home party or another family event elsewhere. If they love you it should not bother them. I take my mom to church events sometimes but she knows I won't go in.
My brother when we first met as adults(I am adopted). Took me to a megachurch, since I was nearly 2,000 miles away from home, I couldn't really say no. He stupidly thought somehow magically I'd find god while there. No, all it did was piss me off.
My advice, go this time. But if you are under age wait until you are old enough and tell them you'd be happy to attend other non religious Christmas events.
I'm 22 and I don't live under my parents roof. Just NY grandparents run the church.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 3:21 pm
IMHO, at 22, and on your own, it's time to live your own life and make your own decisions.
I'd take the "no thanks, church is not my thing route" and that would be that.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 3:26 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I'm 22 and I don't live under my parents roof. Just NY grandparents run the church.
Shit.
It's time to assert your autonomy by sprouting some testicles.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 3:48 pm
Would gramps meekly attend a drumming circle, ingesting peyote just because you expected him to? (If yes....awesomesauce!)
Nah...be polite, be firm. You should never be afraid to be trueto yourself.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 4:05 pm
I think it is a good idea to just say no, my self control has limits and a church service to a psychotic deity that wants to torture me forever because I don't accept the scapegoat sacrifice he made of his zombie son seems a bit much. Still I may luck as I think it will be canceled as there is a snow storm hitting.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Can't use that excuse forever.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 6:17 pm
You can look at it a couple of different ways. You can stand up for your beliefs and refuse to go. This may irk the fam -- but at least you wont have to sit through a boring sermon.
You can just go along with it and agree to sit through the boring sermon for one night out of the year. Your family will be happy and the contentious issues can be put on hold for the holiday. Not being a member of your family I can't say which would be worse. You can flip a coin to decide. If you end up going to church -- get high first, it will make it more bearable.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- don't pollute it with bullshit.
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RE: Dealing with church.
December 24, 2013 at 6:36 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Can't use that excuse forever.
No I won't be going at all unless it is a absolute necessity
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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