(December 26, 2013 at 9:48 pm)LostLocke Wrote:

(December 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote: What's up with all the questions?

Are you interrogating us?

Do you have something to hide?

(December 26, 2013 at 10:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Do you have something to hide?

Why does this remind me of savedwheat?

(December 26, 2013 at 10:22 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(December 26, 2013 at 10:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Do you have something to hide?

Why does this remind me of savedwheat?

Didn't I banhammer that guy?

(November 12, 2013 at 11:16 pm)Sleepy Wrote:

(November 12, 2013 at 11:09 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Hey Sleepy, welcome to AF.org

Could you clear up this apparent contradiction for me(?):


As for your query:


Well, you might have guessed that my problem, not with Islam, but religious thought in general is that it really isn't logical at all. Your apparent contradiction highlights this very neatly, in that the religious tie themselves into knots and then do mental gymnastics to try and explain away their irrational thinking.

I don't like being intellectually dishonest with myself, and religion forces me to do that.

Yeah I can clear that up for you. What is an atheist? Let's hypothetically assume there is a God. An atheist is that individual which denies the Greatest of all time. If the Greatest of All Time created everything including the atheist and the atheist flat out denies that God then speaking from a sense of religion you should be able to see that it would make sense for God to abandon the individual as well. That creation is completely astray. It's one to thing to follow a wrong religion it's another to deny Him completely.

Religious thought in Islam is completely logical. I challenge you to show me otherwise.

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(November 12, 2013 at 11:06 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: The fail is strong with this one. Currently not interested in giving him a history lecture. Poor wee thang is too far gone for logic to break through it seems.

You obviously have no concept of knowledge, wisdom, virtues otherwise you wouldn't make such an arrogant and ignorant statement. I'm not going to sit here and say I'm going to pray for you to come to the true path. I'm simply gonna tell you to abandon negative preconceptions regardless of religion and make yourself a better human being.

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(November 12, 2013 at 11:04 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: N00b. Where to begin?

What do you have to say? Spit it out. Or maybe you shouldn't because we'll all be in nothingness right?

Quote:Yeah I can clear that up for you. What is an atheist? Let's hypothetically assume there is a God. An atheist is that individual which denies the Greatest of all time. If the Greatest of All Time created everything including the atheist and the atheist flat out denies that God then speaking from a sense of religion you should be able to see that it would make sense for God to abandon the individual as well. That creation is completely astray. It's one to thing to follow a wrong religion it's another to deny Him completely.

Religious thought in Islam is completely logical. I challenge you to show me otherwise.

I see. So Allah (is his second name Fitzgerald?) is as needy of recognition and attention as his Judeo-Christian counterpart. Just when you were getting my hopes up you tell me Ella is as psychologically disturbed as the other arsehole, Jewhovah. Having such human proclivities is hardly Godlike, is it Sleepy?

Quote:Having such human proclivities is hardly Godlike, is it Sleepy?

It's right up there with fucking 9 year olds.

(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Right now we are in reality. As opposed to non reality which none of us know. We only know this world. We were thrown into this world without any choice( thrownness- Heidegger)

How are we here? Is there really a moral standard? Do we come from nothingness and go back to nothingness?

"Who, when disaster strikes them, say, "Indeed we belong to Allah , and indeed to Him we will return." Quran 2: 156

I'm not your average Muslim that spouts out verses. Islam is the religion of logic. And I know atheists always claim to love logic but many a times even when not talking about religion I see the logic falter and they really don't even have what it takes for 3000 level philosophy courses. Not many do. Not saying that means anything though if you do comprehend but simply trying to talk about logic.

It's my first time on these forums. What about Islam is illogical to any of the atheists on here?

I'm sure many of you were born in families that adhered to a form of christianity as we all know there are endless sects, many of you are hidden atheists, and many are christians unsure, and also the agnostics.

Christianity is illogical. God dying. Jesus not being all knowing and God is supposed to be All Knowing. God is One but yet he is three. God is the Greatest but yet he is physically limited by laws, he has to eat, sleep, drink.

I definitely understand why many become atheist if they don't know Islam and they've only known Christianity because it is in itself nonsensical.


Islam beliefs
God is One. God is the Greatest. The Most Merciful. Babies are not born with sin. He is the Most Compassionate. Good or bad that happens in this world you are still in His hands. Traumatic events are tests on the individual. Those who are patient are indeed amongst the righteous. You can be Christian, Jewish and even other religion and go to heaven. You're not condemned to hell if you're not Muslim. If you're not sincere in good deeds they don't matter unless you're sincere in your heart. If you're a good person you will most likely go to heaven...except those that are atheists. Denying the existence of God is non sensical.

Islam is the religion of science, knowledge, wisdom.

Read some history. The entire Renaissance was founded because of the Islamic Golden Age.

What questions does anyone have for me? If you have any misconceptions about Islam tell me.

We'll if you consider a dude flying into another demention with a chariot science.

(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: The Most Merciful... If you're a good person you will most likely go to heaven...except those that are atheists. Denying the existence of God is non sensical.

If your God is truly the most merciful then why doesn't he show his mercy by forgiving atheists?

My apologies if this has already been asked. I really should read whole threads.